Paying for TV License

deuse · 1 Jan 2013 at 09:29

Glaucus said:
Wrong, you need a license. The license doesn't care how the signal is being broadcast, as long as you are watching or recording a live signal then you need a license. Tvcatchup is live so you need a license.

Most stuff on Iplayer and the like arent live so you wouldn't need a license.

Tvcatchup is delayed the same as F1 on BBC is delayed by more then 4 mins so you don't need a tv license.

"Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence."

Sho · 1 Jan 2013 at 09:35

deuse said:
"Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence."

This.

Which idiots keep referring back to " You still need a License"

Read the print outs. I'm sure we have these topics/debates every other day.. Should have sunk in by now... :rolleyes:

But of course, Good old GD for ya.

doran1801 · 1 Jan 2013 at 09:38

http://forums.tvcatchup.com/showthread.php?7859-Students-and-TV-Licence/page2

DGarfield · 1 Jan 2013 at 11:11

All I see in that video is two idiots wasting peoples time.

Kenai · 1 Jan 2013 at 11:47

Biohazard said:
They can't cross the threshold of your door. Neither can dataserve or other electric meter readers and so on.

You can effectively ignore them.

Them not being allowed into your house is a different issue entirely to the Communications Act itself not being law unless you consent to it though :confused:

Kenai · 1 Jan 2013 at 11:49

deuse said:
Tvcatchup is delayed the same as F1 on BBC is delayed by more then 4 mins so you don't need a tv license.

"Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence."

Despite it's name, TVCatchup is not a catchup service it's a live television streaming service and it is certainly nowhere near 4 minutes delayed.

You need a TV License to use TVCatchup

TVCatchup said:
IMPORTANT: TV LICENSING & STUDENTS

Mobile access is certainly causing a stir amongst iPhone users, and one of the most frequently asked questions we hear concerns TV licensing.

Generally, everyone equipped to watch TV as it is being broadcast (including users of this website, whatever they use) are required to be in possession of a valid TV licence. Details of your obligations can be found by going to: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk

This does not necessarily apply to students using laptops or mobile devices to view content. The TV Licensing Agency advise that you do NOT need to hold a TV licence in your own name provided all of the following apply:

You only use TV receiving equipment that is powered by its internal batteries; and
You have not installed it (e.g. connected it to an aerial or plugged it into the mains) to receive TV; and
Your permanent address (non term-time) is your parents' home; and
Your parents have a valid TV Licence for their home.

Confirmation of this can be found by clicking HERE

It is the user’s responsibility to read the information provided by the TV Licensing Agency carefully and to comply with the law. If in doubt, please call them direct on 0844 800 6721

Accordingly, we are pleased to advise an alteration to our Terms of Service: those student Members meeting the eligibility criteria published by the TV Licensing Agency are no longer required to be in possession of a television licence to use this website.

Whilst this website does not retain records that could identify any individual users or their access to content, all other users are reminded that they are otherwise required to be covered by a valid TV licence or risk legal action.

So unless you are student, covered by the standard student 'running off battery, parents have license' exclusion - you need a license to use TVCatchup.

HungryHippos · 1 Jan 2013 at 11:57

I'm getting a new place soon and I don't really watch TV (BBC etc), so I don't want to pay for a license for one.

I have a TV but I only use it for:

1. Playing media from my computer (BluRay/Rips).
2. Playing on my XBOX 360/PS3.

So I don't think I need a license for my TV usage, however my car can pick up the radio and I occasionally use that. Do I need a TV license to cover listening to the BBC stations in my car radio?

2blue4u · 1 Jan 2013 at 11:57

The main advantage to ending the TV Licence would be to stop these bloody threads. So much drivel, so much ignorance, so much pinko clap-trap. Get a life, people.

Kenai · 1 Jan 2013 at 11:59

Eulogy said:
I'm getting a new place soon and I don't really watch TV (BBC etc), so I don't want to pay for a license for one.

I have a TV but I only use it for:

1. Playing media from my computer (BluRay/Rips).
2. Playing on my XBOX 360/PS3.

So I don't think I need a license for my TV usage, however my car can pick up the radio and I occasionally use that. Do I need a TV license to cover listening to the BBC stations in my car radio?

No, you don't need one.

the shadow · 1 Jan 2013 at 12:03

TV licence. lol

HungryHippos · 1 Jan 2013 at 12:10

Kenai said:
No, you don't need one.

Thanks!

AtreuS · 1 Jan 2013 at 12:54

Never had one, never will.

The odd clown from tv licencing who thinks he is some sort of uniformed police officer knocks at the door each year, you just close it in their face and get on with your life.

LeeUK · 1 Jan 2013 at 13:10

Never had a licence for 7 years now.

Odd threat-o-gram addressed to the occupier through the post and the odd clown knocking on the door.

They have no right of entry and can't make you sign any paperwork. I just tell the clown that I don't require a licence and close the door.

Glaucus · 1 Jan 2013 at 13:13

deuse said:
Tvcatchup is delayed the same as F1 on BBC is delayed by more then 4 mins so you don't need a tv license.

"Exception: If you only watch catch-up services online, then you don’t need a licence."

It's delayed in the same sense as the radio waves don't reach you house instantly. Tvcatchup you need a license. It's live.

Tvcatchup is not a catchup service.

Old Wino · 1 Jan 2013 at 13:16

Biohazard · 1 Jan 2013 at 13:20

Kenai said:
Them not being allowed into your house is a different issue entirely to the Communications Act itself not being law unless you consent to it though

Think that's more chicken and the egg, how can they get a warrant with no real evidence.

It's not so much consent but conviction by computer.

They have a point to a certain extent.

Kenai · 1 Jan 2013 at 13:26

Biohazard said:
Think that's more chicken and the egg, how can they get a warrant with no real evidence.

It's not so much consent but conviction by computer.

They have a point to a certain extent.

I think we're talking about different things entirely.

I'm talking about legislation that covers a huuuge range of communication processes and practices, not just whether the TV License man is allowed in your house.

The entire Communications Act's existence is rendered irrelevant just because someone chooses that it doesn't apply to them. Really?

That's what was claimed, the entire Communications Act 2003 only applies if you decide you want it to apply to you.

Sounds like complete rubbish to me.

Biohazard · 1 Jan 2013 at 14:33

Kenai said:
I think we're talking about different things entirely.

I'm talking about legislation that covers a huuuge range of communication processes and practices, not just whether the TV License man is allowed in your house.

The entire Communications Act's existence is rendered irrelevant just because someone chooses that it doesn't apply to them. Really?

That's what was claimed, the entire Communications Act 2003 only applies if you decide you want it to apply to you.

Sounds like complete rubbish to me.

No we aren't, and it isn't just the one act as I pointed out earlier.

It's conviction by a public body in absence of evidence or an opportunity for the accused to present their case. Something's missing on a computer, thus you are x y z. It's for compliance of course, but there are cases where they are issued by mistake (because of no possibility of representation by the accused at the judiciary) and then people get wound up as courts have taken the word of a public body with no evidence other than an oath that was baseless.

That is a valid point, the freeman of the hills derp magna carta not so much. Imo.

Amp34 · 1 Jan 2013 at 15:44

Biohazard said:
The BBC is most certainly a propoganda machine. They all are.

Perhaps, however as they are the only broadcaster that does good documentaries and doesn't have adverts in the middle of programmes they are certainly the best for me...

I would begrudge spending £30 a month on TV and still have to watch 10 minutes of adverts for every 20 minutes of TV show (aka all sky/VM channels).

Mr-White said:
Nope tvcatchup ftw

MW

Need a licence... (edit: to clarify I mean tvcatchup.com, not iplayer/demand4 etc)

DIABLO · 1 Jan 2013 at 16:53

People also seem to forget that the fee also pays for all the BBC radio stations that are advert free, so the £150 is a bit of a bargain i think.