Prostitution - your stance
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No don't get me wrong. I completely understand them charging a high price and I have nothing wrong with and think any self respecting person, if they are going to do that, should charge a lot. The problem is that it costs a lot of money from a paying perspective and to spend that much on sex every month or whenever is not such a good thing. That is the point i was making that it can become a problem for the person paying.
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No. They don't pay tax.
Here's a question for you. Why is a woman using her body to make money through having sex illegal(ish) and morally wrong but a man using his body to make money by being beaten to a pulp and injured through something like boxing fine and a respected sport.
Much like it's fine on a sunday afternoon to watch a war movie with people being shot, maimed, crippled and blown apart but any shagging in a movie before 9pm causes outrage.
Sex is a bad thing to be frowned and appauled over and violence is a great idea...? Hmm... Says something about us as a race I suspect.
Just a thought.
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Much like it's fine on a sunday afternoon to watch a war movie with people being shot, maimed, crippled and blown apart but any shagging in a movie before 9pm causes outrage.
Sex is a bad thing to be frowned and appauled over and violence is a great idea...? Hmm... Says something about us as a race I suspect.
Just a thought.
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Exactly.
I don't see how its morally wrong for someone to earn £70 for half an hour instead of £7 an hour stacking shelves in Tesco, giving them more time and money to spend on their own, and their childrens education, acomodation, food and well being if it is a choice they have willingly made themselves.
It's not my fault I can't pay tax on it, I and many others would if we could, and it isn't as if I am not avoiding all tax, clients who pay have paid tax on their income, and then when that money is spent its by and large taxed again.
I don't see how its morally wrong for someone to earn £70 for half an hour instead of £7 an hour stacking shelves in Tesco, giving them more time and money to spend on their own, and their childrens education, acomodation, food and well being if it is a choice they have willingly made themselves.
It's not my fault I can't pay tax on it, I and many others would if we could, and it isn't as if I am not avoiding all tax, clients who pay have paid tax on their income, and then when that money is spent its by and large taxed again.
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as with previous laws banning homosexuality... whatever consenting adults want to get up to in the bedroom isn't anyones business
The act of prostitution itself isn't actually illegal in the UK anyway... its various activities surrounding prostitution such as soliciting, living off immoral earnings etc...
On one had some legislation is required... most people wouldn't want prostitutes walking around the streets in their area trying to solicit trade. On the other hand legislation preventing people from running brothels isn't helpful - properly licensed premises could control the trade and curb the involvement of criminal gangs, human trafficking etc...
Because lots of people still base their morals on (LOLReligion) books written many years ago in the middle east when contraception wasn't easily available.
I guess eating pork in a hot country where refrigeration was hard to come by was also a bad idea... Some people still don't eat pork today because their magic sky pixie says they can't... People are stupid and believe in fairy tales that's all... Sex is just sex... there's nothing morally 'wrong' about it.
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Meh, too many gross oversimplification of a complex problem in this thread along with a case of selectively ignoring numerous very real negative side effects of the commodification of human beings into products.
On the plus side at least Joe public has no real power (Something at times like this I'm thankful for).
On the plus side at least Joe public has no real power (Something at times like this I'm thankful for).
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Pray tell, what these issues are, in comparison to someone selling their body for the defense, combat or murder of others (bodyguards, boxers and military personnel), someone selling their body and time at a slaves wage (stacking shelves) or someone selling their body, through their own choice, for the sexual gratification of others?
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Whats your view on pornography?
I'm curious, as the things you cite, eg page 3 are things that are willingly embraced by women, and sub cultures like prostitution and pornography, have a remarkably high uptake. Women watch pornography as much as men, women certainly have a higher rate of prostitution.
I understand entirely what you mean about sexual gratification, I am sad to think that as a society that we are still hung up over something that should be as simple as eating, but the fact remains that WOMEN are the ones that help propagate this culture we live in.
Don't even get me started on 50 Shades of Grey.
There are many decent hardworking women who view sex as something personal, do what they want within the context of their lives, but there is a significant proportion that fuel the very sentiments you dislike.
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People trying to tell OTHER people how to use their body actually **** me off. As long as it doesn`t hurt anybody let them do it.
That's a pretty feeble argument, all money is spent and re-spent but you choose to work as a prostitute which is presently (right or wrong) outside of the tax system and don't pay tax. If you feel that strongly that you would like to pay tax just fill out a self assessment and declare your income as self employment of some nature.
You mean like my post above the one you chose to quote? I've not selectively ignored that issue at all - If you look one post up form the one you quoted its you who seems to have been selective in what you've chosen to ignore.
If you're going to talk about the commodification of human beings and you're referring to the trafficking of girls etc.. then that is something that needs to be addressed and quite frankly legalising and regulating the industry can go some way to achieve that. If you're talking about selling sex in itself as essentially commodifying human beings then quite frankly I think that argument is pretty poor and has its basis in people being overly sensitive about sex.
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And risk further questioning, prosecution, persecution and an audit? NOM8
Pornogrophy is something I have no qualms with and think its a perfectly valid form of art, as well as a healthy sex tool both for individuals and couples.
Page 3 normalises female bodies simple objects of desire, it isn't in any way out of reach of children and promotes the negative assumption that all women are is sex objects. Porn is great, the normalisation of seeing women as porn objects on a day to day basis out of context in a news paper that a 5 year old can purchase and be influenced by? Big difference.