They're also learning valuable skills which will benefit them in the future. Not pushing a mop or stacking shelves.
Poundland Girl Wins Forced Labour Ruling
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They're also learning valuable skills which will benefit them in the future. Not pushing a mop or stacking shelves.
I still don't understand why everyone kicked off about this scheme...
You worked 11.5 hrs
Ahhh...okay - I will go and put my dunce cap on and sit back down in the corner
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Did you even read the article? She was doing voluntary work before being "forced" into Workfare!
I do a lot of voluntary work (Scouting, Charity work though my Freemasonry etc) and it's often harder than my "day job"!
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I think she was actually doing voluntary work prior to "Pound land" so gave up doing something useful so the system could put a tick in a box. Shocking really, what a waste
I can't believe some people actually think this ruling is a good thing, so people sitting on their backside claiming benefits is okay but making them work and thus gain experience that will help them get a job is a bad thing
I can't believe people think being made to work for slave wages in Poundland is a good thing... How would that experience be beneficial?
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I can't believe some people actually think this ruling is a good thing, so people sitting on their backside claiming benefits is okay but making them work and thus gain experience that will help them get a job is a bad thing
I've no issue with people doing 11.5hr of work in return for thier JSA.
30+hrs a week is exploitation though.
Its not slave wages though, its almost the same as an apprentice earns, the idea is your paid less because your getting skills that help you.
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All i have seen about this scheme seems to involve relatively low rent companies, low skilled jobs, low wages, rightly or wrongly leads very well into creating a perception of forced labour with no real benefits.
If they could just sign up some decent companies, provide decent training and prospect of a decent position at the end would do a lot to improve public perception of the scheme.
Not saying i agree with the scheme just that i see the above as a PR problem
If they could just sign up some decent companies, provide decent training and prospect of a decent position at the end would do a lot to improve public perception of the scheme.
Not saying i agree with the scheme just that i see the above as a PR problem
I can't believe some people actually think this ruling is a good thing, so people sitting on their backside claiming benefits is okay but making them work and thus gain experience that will help them get a job is a bad thing
So would you be happy earning about £2 an hour working in Poundland after making the effort of getting a degree from a good university?
See, I just dont understand that attitude. I worked in McDonalds after graduating while I looked for a proper job. it never occurred to me to expect other people to pay for me.
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The system does garuntee that you'll always be better off (monetarily at least) if you have a job.
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What skills?
Not under the current benefits system you arent...
Not sure if serious...
Lets see, well she would have to communicate with customers, work as part of a team, etc, etc. even if it was just stacking shelves the is more to stock systems than just picking things up from a box that appears by magic and putting it on a shelf...
What if you couldn't get employed by McDonalds or anywhere else? If your only option was to claim JSA so that you could live, would you think it's acceptable that you're forced to work but paid peanuts? Not everyone on JSA is on it by choice.
If the alternative was getting the same amount of money to sit at home watching daytime TV while my job prospects spin in neutral, then yes actually.
Unfortunately voluntary work doesn't pay the bills. She has a Geology degree so I doubt there's many jobs and voluntary work in the museum is probably her only way in. It might not be beneficial to her career prospects but the scheme is designed to get people off benefits.
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You really think working in a supermarket is comparable to an apprenticeship?
Not sure if serious.