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7950 Or 7970 £50 difference worth it?

tommybhoy said:
I'm responding to the 5% comments for the sake of the op and others reading.
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No you actually responded to my post as if I was talking to you when I was talking about the overclockability of 7950s. That's different.

tommybhoy said:
I did post evidence on someone else's thread a while back, like yourself, I'm not going to sit and look for them, I take you at face value when you know what your talking about (680v7950) despite the widely reported figures that was out there?

If you can't do the same back, that's your prerogative, I only hope that it's not because you don't like saying a simple 'ok fair enough buddy'.

It might help others that want to know the same answer in the future, but it seems likely, in your eyes that your correct and I'm wrong despite never using/testing them yourself.
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It's not about wrong/right Tommy, no matter how much you try to frame the debate that way. The 5% difference clock for clock is the universally agreed figure. If you've got some situations where that's not the case then let's see the actual numbers. I've seen a number of situations here where 7% has magically became 10% or vice versa so numbers are needed.

tommybhoy said:
Why would I make it up(I know you never implied it, but it equates to me pulling numbers out the air) when I'm using both cards despite telling the op to save the money and get a 50 instead?
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There's a plethora of reasons why your results could be flawed without them being made up.

Anyway, I'm not really that interested to be honest in arguing the toss over an unnoticeable 5% here or there. I stated my own view on this at the beginning and then started to talk about the overclockability of 7950s (of which I am interested in) with kissenger. I don't really have anything else to add to the subject now :).
 
It's cool, dress it up which way you like, your not really that interested but I'm wrong and you are correct, lol.

The op/whoever can take wrong 'guesstimates'-because that's the universal 'I never tried it for myself in the exact same system but that's what it will be' pov.

Or they are free to take my 'I knowmate'-because 'I tested it myself' pov.:D
 
tommybhoy said:
It's cool, dress it up which way you like, your not really that interested but I'm wrong and you are correct, lol.

The op/whoever can take wrong 'guesstimates'-because that's the universal 'I never tried it for myself in the exact same system but that's what it will be' pov.

Or they are free to take my 'I knowmate'-because 'I tested it myself' pov.:D
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I'll go with the latter i think. :)
 
tommybhoy said:
It's cool, dress it up which way you like, your not really that interested but I'm wrong and you are correct, lol.

The op/whoever can take wrong 'guesstimates'-because that's the universal 'I never tried it for myself in the exact same system but that's what it will be' pov.

Or they are free to take my 'I knowmate'-because 'I tested it myself' pov.:D
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I don't think that's what I said. As I said, keep trying to frame it is as right/wrong but that's not what it's about. Without seeing your results your own findings don't suddenly override the default perspective. If you've got some evidence then that can be assessed on its own.
 
well if that particular 7970 is voltage locked just get a different one and cream all over the 7950 :)

I'm thinking of selling my 660ti on ebay and getting and 7970 :)

ps which 7970's have voltage control?
 
To summarize, some say 5%, I tested up to 10% even though I'm reccomending the 7950 as you won't notice it anyway in games.

Others haven't came back and then said it's only 5%.

Shader intensive test, clock for clock@stock MSI 7970 OC clocks@1010/1375, rest of spec in sig.

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7950
 
imginy said:
well if that particular 7970 is voltage locked just get a different one and cream all over the 7950 :)

I'm thinking of selling my 660ti on ebay and getting and 7970 :)

ps which 7970's have voltage control?
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I'm going to use up my allowance now.

This one does! http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-155-MS (long time posters here won't even need to click this link, they already know where it leads!)

Sometimes OCUK put it down to £299 as well.

tommybhoy said:
To summarize, some say 5%, I tested up to 10% even though I'm reccomending the 7950 as you won't notice it anyway in games.

Others haven't came back and then said it's only 5%.

Shader intensive test, clock for clock@stock MSI 7970 OC clocks@1010/1375, rest of spec in sig.

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7970

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Tommy am i correct in thinking that Core and Memory clocks don't make a difference in Shader intensive benches/games?
 
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7970. 5% is a lie, the difference is much larger in most games. 10% is quite a lot. and they oc better, the RAM that is.
 
I honestly cannot tell the difference in game between the two. I have my 7950 @ 1100/1600 and the 7970 runs 1200/1600 and both perform the same no noticeable difference. I run 2560x1440 so both are being used.

I would save the £50 and buy some games or beer or something.
 
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