Holiday Entitlement - Opinion on this situation

Always make me laugh how so many people will say they 'enjoy work' but then moan and gripe about a lack of holiday entitlement.

I enjoy my job but I also enjoy my holidays abroad, it is not that hard to understand. I definitely wouldn't like to only have 20days + BH. Luckily as a contractor I can take as much holiday as I want within reason. Last year I had 10 weeks off and my client didn't mind in the slightest.
 
Always make me laugh how so many people will say they 'enjoy work' but then moan and gripe about a lack of holiday entitlement.

People are saying 20 days is tight but on a 5 day week that's 4 weeks off a year, or a month off. 30 days is 6 weeks off, when you then throw in bank holidays that's quite a lot of entitlement.

Do you like holidays and lying on the beach? If so would you want to only lie on the beach year in year out?

Just because you like something doesn't mean you want to do it ALL the time. I use up all my entitlement because that's the only time I get off really. I don't count weekends because after you've done everything you needed to do from during the week it's basically no time off...

For reference I get 25 days + Bank holidays which I think is fairly standard in "professional" jobs. I get the impression that the lower paid the job the more likely you're going to get the minimum?
 
Its my fault people are reading it that way, people are assuming its the same working hours because i didn't state otherwise, we hardly ever work Saturdays, when they do they get paid more than there normal shift rate so there well compensated.
 
there all on +/- 30k a year

obviously as its outside work during the winter there on there way home and potentially sat on there sofa at 5pm, in the summer we would expect a full 8 - 5 shift with an hour for dinner if we are not under pressure to get the job done and none of that includes traveling time.
 
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Times are tight and all but if I was looking at around 30K a year I'd definitely be looking at around 28days + BHs. (Even if not as part of the starting package atleast the possibility to get there as a longer term employee).
 
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I see it the other way Rroff - 30k is reasonably good for engineering at a small company. I'd rather be paid 30k + 20 days holiday than 25k + 30 days holiday.
 
I wouldn't take a job offering statutory holiday, and I don't know many people on that little. I currently get 27 + bank holidays. My girlfriend is on 25 + bank holidays and most of my friends are on 25-30 + bank holidays.

I appreciate that you are a small business, but its surely cheaper to offer an extra days holiday each year than lose your staff to other companies. I wouldn't feel particularly valued, and therefore inclined to stay, at a company that didn't offer improved benefits for loyalty.
 
Yes i agree reading everyones responses, the confusing part is as i said, out of the four long term employees 3 of them did not even use all of there 20 days.

We have some new people starting and new contracts will be drafted so i am hoping i can encourage some sort of loyalty bonus.
 
Yes i agree reading everyones responses, the confusing part is as i said, out of the four long term employees 3 of them did not even use all of there 20 days.

People don't always use the exact amount of days. Maybe if they have had a few more days they could go on a weeks holiday in the summer.
 
I get 20 + bank holidays, didn't even use it all last year. The same will probably happen this year as well as I don't have any holiday planned until July. Obviously 20 days on 5 days a week is 4 weeks. Maybe offer 24 days and make it up to the 4 weeks as they work 6 days a week.
 
28 days holidays
+ 8 bank holidays
+ 2 company's bank holidays

38 days per year

PLUS... company close for 2 weeks over the xmas without losing any holiday/pay.

35hrs a week, mon to fri.
 
I am currently on 34 incl. bank holiday, as we are "not a bank" (what my boss always seems to say) we tend to work these and choose when to take days off which works out better imo.

I will got up to 35 next year and that i think is my lot, having gone up 1 day a year since i started capping out at 35. For the royal wedding all staff were given and extra day holiday and for jubilee we were also afforded the same.

I have the option to carry over a maximum of 5 unused days to the next years allowance which i have generally done every year, taking holiday is pretty flexible where i work, quite often when you want 1 day off can be authorised the day before.
 
The interesting thing is that I wonder if in your calculations of only offering 20 days holiday, rather than those, say 5-7 days of "lost" productivity, how much those holidays would have cost you vs the cost of recruiting, training and waiting for the replacement to get to the standard of your experienced staff. I dare say you would have lost less money offering a better holiday deal.
 
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