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Geforce Titan rumours.

To the people criticising others and calling them "silly" et al for considering buying a Titan: take a long hard look at yourself. Honestly, it's pathetic that people feel the need to try and belittle people for buying a graphics card with their disposable income. I think it's partly down to jealously/envy in some cases and just pure spite in other cases.

Some of the worst form I've seen on this sub forum, seriously.

I think all prospective Titan owners know that they aren't getting the greatest value for money already without being told repeatedly over multiple pages so please for the sake of what has been a good thread, stop repeating it over... and over... and over.

There are many other things to consider when buying anything other than price/performance. Please bear that in mind. While you may not agree with the 'justifications' that people put forward for wanting a Titan there's no need to get narky over it. It isn't your money.

Well said that man :)
 
The only question I ask about a GPU is will it do what I want it to, if the answer is yes then its good value.

I don't have an issue with spending what one wants-that's their decision but does alarm bells not ring on the path we are being taken down kap?

In the long run if this is the start of a new pricing band, there won't be games to play that will need pushed by these monsters as a lot of enthusiasts will cease purchasing.

How many are you getting?

:)
 
But u have not answered the question. what is stopping nvidia and ATI charging 800 for 780/8870 cards?

why not when people are happy to spend 800 on this.

The market is what dictates the price ie if no one buys something it goes on sale but if people keep buy and buying, prices will go up and up and up until people no longer can afford it.

in this case it seems people can afford a titan therefore if it sells well, nvidia and ati will be thinking umm, lets charge the same for our next batch of cards seeing as people lapped up a titan.

They are in it for the money. if they could even sell this titan for 2k, they would love to do so

Because if they charged that much for a 780 or 8870 hardly anybody would buy it. Just like hardly anybody is going to buy this Titan (comparitivly speaking compared to how many own a 680 or 7970)

I would bet that nvidia made more profit per sale on the launch priced GTX680 then they are going to get for a titan even priced at £900. Its a massivly complex chip that was never designed for this market and this price point.
 
It's one hell of a sexy card that's for sure, I'd rather just wait until similar cards become more affordable though it's not like PC gaming is thriving is it.
 
To the people criticising others and calling them "silly" et al for considering buying a Titan: take a long hard look at yourself. Honestly, it's pathetic that people feel the need to try and belittle people for buying a graphics card with their disposable income. I think it's partly down to jealously/envy in some cases and just pure spite in other cases.

Some of the worst form I've seen on this sub forum, seriously.

I think all prospective Titan owners know that they aren't getting the greatest value for money already without being told repeatedly over multiple pages so please for the sake of what has been a good thread, stop repeating it over... and over... and over.

There are many other things to consider when buying anything other than price/performance. Please bear that in mind. While you may not agree with the 'justifications' that people put forward for wanting a Titan there's no need to get narky over it. It isn't your money.

Firstly, this hasn't really happened that much, and secondly, playing the jealousy card seriously cheapens your post.

Thirdly, you're making it out to be much more serious than it is, it's people talking about buying graphics cards. Pathetic, and taking long hard looks at themselves is something that needs to be reserved for situations of importance, not splurging out on the latest toys.
 
Because if they charged that much for a 780 or 8870 hardly anybody would buy it. Just like hardly anybody is going to buy this Titan (comparitivly speaking compared to how many own a 680 or 7970)

I would bet that nvidia made more profit per sale on the launch priced GTX680 then they are going to get for a titan even priced at £900. Its a massivly complex chip that was never designed for this market and this price point.

But that is my point if u bothered to read:rolleyes:

i have said countless times that IF the titan sells well then nothing is stopping nvidia and ATI selling a 780 at the same price.

if people now can buy a titan, they can certainly be happy to buy a 780 at the same price.

The consumer is what dictates the price. Look at the Housing in london for example since the recession. lots of houses for sale and at cheapish price because no one is buying at the moment.

prices will rise when people buy so prices of 780gtx will rise when people buy a titan.

simple cant u understand this? Cant u understand that nvidia and ati are in it for the money just like 9/10 companies/workers out their?

if they could get away with selling a 780 for 2k they would. simple as that
 
But they won't get away with selling a 78 at £2000

What you forget is the Titan is extremely limited and a collectors card as well as a performance card. The 780 will not be limited to less than 10,000 cards.
 
I don't have an issue with spending what one wants-that's their decision but does alarm bells not ring on the path we are being taken down kap?

In the long run if this is the start of a new pricing band, there won't be games to play that will need pushed by these monsters as a lot of enthusiasts will cease purchasing.

How many are you getting?

:)

In that context it is worrying, if people are consistantly prepared to pay high prices for cards, nvidia and AMD will be only to happy to carry on charging high prices.
 
But that is my point if u bothered to read:rolleyes:

i have said countless times that IF the titan sells well then nothing is stopping nvidia and ATI selling a 780 at the same price.

if people now can buy a titan, they can certainly be happy to buy a 780 at the same price.

The consumer is what dictates the price. Look at the Housing in london for example since the recession. lots of houses for sale and at cheapish price because no one is buying at the moment.

prices will rise when people buy so prices of 780gtx will rise when people buy a titan.

simple cant u understand this? Cant u understand that nvidia and ati are in it for the money just like 9/10 companies/workers out their?

if they could get away with selling a 780 for 2k they would. simple as that

It will never sell well, it's a limited edition card. The market would not sustain with cards being sold at £800 as the norm.

Put it this way, AMD would make exponentially more profit selling a 7970 at £300 than they would at £800, because significantly more people will by at £300, thus greatly offsetting the additional £500 per card they'd get at £800.
 
To the people criticising others and calling them "silly" et al for considering buying a Titan: take a long hard look at yourself. Honestly, it's pathetic that people feel the need to try and belittle people for buying a graphics card with their disposable income. I think it's partly down to jealously/envy in some cases and just pure spite in other cases.

That's generally how the person/s buying Titan feel but it's miles from the truth.

That's their way of justifying it and making it feel like good value. No doubt they will continue to think they have achieved good value as the months go by as they benchmark it and gloat and upload their scores.

But that isn't how it is. If people want to show concern at a single cored graphics card that costs over £800 then they are more than entitled to.

Why? because they are the customers, they are the buying audience.

If the majority ends up silenced and this goes ahead then we are just digging a big hole for ourselves as enthusiasts.

The more we let our suppliers get away with the more they will simply implode with their own greed and screw us all.

AMD got the message with the 7950 and 7970 alright. They are now incredibly good value even though they don't really need to be. Nvidia have gone on being greedy by selling their slower counterparts for a lot more money and they will most certainly continue doing so all of the time there are people around that will think they are providing a good service and good value for money.

If you don't see what is wrong with Titan then I actually, truly feel sorry for you.

Building a PC used to be pretty much the same for one and all. You bought your choice of Athlon XP for £80 or so and you then bought a 9700 or 9800 pro. At that point you all pretty much had the same.

Now? haha it's all about snobbery and how much money you are prepared to spend. People actually think now that having three £800+ cards turns them into some sort of god.

Every time we allow this to happen we just create a rod for our own backs. PC gaming pretty much died for the same reasons. Why should a coder sit down and make sure a game can run well on moderate hardware when people are prepared to spend stupid amounts of money on the hardware to run it?

But there's a problem with that. When you make it so that a PC to run the latest games costs £1000 you cut the target audience by a huge percentage. When you do that you then sell fewer games resulting in fewer sales.

And that's why PC gaming died on its backside and why consoles took over, simply because they were cheaper and easier to set up.

I remember only a few years ago it took about £450 to set up a gaming PC that could run absolutely any title thrown at it. I bought my Athlon for $90 (and it was a top end chip !) and a top end board (Nforce II) for $60.

Now? lmao top end cpu £600 and top end board £350+

And the reason? people have made it clear that so long as they can feel good about themselves and think they are better than others then they are prepared to pay for it.
 
Wonder if we can expect a "good game pack" with the Titan similar to one they ran a few weeks ago on an amd card think it was 5 games, would help to ease the price pain :)

Yes Monopoly and Who wants to be a millionaire.

So we can learn how to make more wonga for the next round of cards.:D:p:D
 
Stayed out of this thread for a day because of Andy constantly going on and on, come back and he's still here writing walls of text.

Why can't you just accept the fact Andy that some people don't care about price/performance, it may not seem worthwhile to you but you seem to struggle accepting others have a different look on things.
 
But that is my point if u bothered to read:rolleyes:

i have said countless times that IF the titan sells well then nothing is stopping nvidia and ATI selling a 780 at the same price.

if people now can buy a titan, they can certainly be happy to buy a 780 at the same price.

The consumer is what dictates the price. Look at the Housing in london for example since the recession. lots of houses for sale and at cheapish price because no one is buying at the moment.

prices will rise when people buy so prices of 780gtx will rise when people buy a titan.

simple cant u understand this? Cant u understand that nvidia and ati are in it for the money just like 9/10 companies/workers out their?

if they could get away with selling a 780 for 2k they would. simple as that

Yes i can understand that but its the volume of the sales thats important as well as the price. I think we all know that the titan is not going to sell well compared to the 680/7970.

So why price the next gen cards at £800 when you can price them at £450 and sell 4x as many?
 
i have said countless times that IF the titan sells well then nothing is stopping nvidia and ATI selling a 780 at the same price.

if people now can buy a titan, they can certainly be happy to buy a 780 at the same price.

This is my concern too, that £800 will become the norm for the top end card.
 
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