Panasonic New ZT60 High-end Plasma 'KURO KILLER' with beyond Reference Picture Quality.

I wonder if that one flickers like all the other panasonic plasmas.

The Panasonics are definately the best image quality... Except for the fact that the flickering compeltely ruins it for me.
 
NirK said:
I wonder if that one flickers like all the other panasonic plasmas.

The Panasonics are definately the best image quality... Except for the fact that the flickering compeltely ruins it for me.
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What flickering? Maybe you are more sensitive to something which I am not as never noticed any flickering on either of my panels.
 
Yes the image quality on panasonics and the motion and blacks are by far the best on the market currently but they are completely ruined in my opinion by the flickering on white / bright scenes.... Similar to an old CRT on 60hz..... I think some people cannot see it because I said to a person in a shop "cant you see that flickering" and he said he couldn't see any flickering... Strange...
 
Somnambulist said:
It's £4k, 60" only and there's only going to be 30,000 of them made for Europe and sold in shops that can demo them properly, people that have seen it think it's the new best TV made.

For reviews, the only ones that matter are AVForums, HDTVTest and proper videophile places like that.

For everyone else, there's the VT series still. Btw it's the ZT65 and VT65 here in the UK.
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a '65 model number yet "only" 60 inches - surely thats going to be very confusing?

I have a 5090 and would happily pay 4k for an upgrade to 65 " if the performance on the larger screen is equally as good. Not sure I would be so keen on only 2/3 of the increase however
 
FrankJH said:
a '65 model number yet "only" 60 inches - surely thats going to be very confusing?

I have a 5090 and would happily pay 4k for an upgrade to 65 " if the performance on the larger screen is equally as good. Not sure I would be so keen on only 2/3 of the increase however
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It will be 60ZT60 for the 60", just like you get 60VT50 for last year's gen.

First number is size, letters are model, last number is generation.
 
The way I read it was that the US have 2 models the 60 and 65 and the UK are just getting the 60.

This TV looks something else. I was following this closely till I found out the price. 4k for a 60" TV is just to rich for my taste. If I had 4k to spend on my screen id be gettign a projector setup.

Stunning TV all the same, just out of my league :(
 
kidloco said:
This TV looks something else. I was following this closely till I found out the price. 4k for a 60" TV is just to rich for my taste. If I had 4k to spend on my screen id be gettign a projector setup.
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You cerntainly get more bang for your buck going to a projector, unfortunately pj's just arent effective without near dark / full dark rooms, so Im stuck with a tv of some kind for now:)
 
I priced up this plasma in my local store yesterday £3175....
But they had none instock...


Am going call myself totally insane,stupid,fool,etc if i do pay over £3000 for yet another TV...:o
Am off now to look for some reviews...:p
 
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Well, the TX-P60ZT65 is neither plentiful nor inexpensive. It’s a premium limited edition Plasma television priced at £4000. (That price, by the way, is many times higher than – in fact, nearly double – the equivalent model being sold in the American market). Although there have been Z-Series Panasonic Viera plasma TVs before, this is the first time the company has so obviously courted high-end, enthusiast AV users with an interest in video quality.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-txp60zt65b-201305062961.htm
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(That price, by the way, is many times higher than – in fact, nearly double – the equivalent model being sold in the American market)
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from reading over at avforums, you have to have more money then sense to buy this tv, the new VT65 is slightly inferior and half the price or thereabouts.

the ZT65 uses the same panel as the VT65 the major difference is that the pane of glass used is much closer to the filter and panel, meaning the gap is the smallest they have ever made. that's basically it.

imo the best tv's to buy at the moment are the 50" GT50 (£720) or a F8500/E8000 (if you want to avoid the issues panasonic panels have) or a VT65 if you really must have a top end set but imo even that is overpriced when you compare it to say a GT60.

the ZT65 is horribly overpriced. imo the GT50 is hard to beat in terms of PQ and value for money. basically even if i had a £10K budget, i would still buy the GT50 simply because it is sooooo good yet sooooo cheap.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
from reading over at avforums, you have to have more money then sense to buy this tv, the new VT65 is slightly inferior and half the price or thereabouts..
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Yet again you are factually incorrect - the ZT is "only" £500 more than the VT (£3300 vs £3800) not even close to half price

I guess you were comparing a 55" screen to the much harder to produce (without faults) 60"+

Psycho Sonny said:
the ZT65 is horribly overpriced. imo the GT50 is hard to beat in terms of PQ and value for money. basically even if i had a £10K budget, i would still buy the GT50 simply because it is sooooo good yet sooooo cheap.
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The Samsung's are approximately £3000 and visibly display how much weaker they are than either the VT (only about £300 more) or the ZT , yet its "horribly" over priced.

Whether the differences to each person are worth the difference in cost is another matter entirely - but in no way is the GT series high end, however blind you want to be regarding the higherspec devices
 
Psycho Sonny said:
from reading over at avforums, you have to have more money then sense to buy this tv, the new VT65 is slightly inferior and half the price or thereabouts.

the ZT65 uses the same panel as the VT65 the major difference is that the pane of glass used is much closer to the filter and panel, meaning the gap is the smallest they have ever made. that's basically it.

imo the best tv's to buy at the moment are the 50" GT50 (£720) or a F8500/E8000 (if you want to avoid the issues panasonic panels have) or a VT65 if you really must have a top end set but imo even that is overpriced when you compare it to say a GT60.

the ZT65 is horribly overpriced. imo the GT50 is hard to beat in terms of PQ and value for money. basically even if i had a £10K budget, i would still buy the GT50 simply because it is sooooo good yet sooooo cheap.
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If you had £10k to spend on a TV, I'd wonder why you were restricting yourself to a 50" screen
 
FrankJH said:
Yet again you are factually incorrect - the ZT is "only" £500 more than the VT (£3300 vs £3800) not even close to half price

I guess you were comparing a 55" screen to the much harder to produce (without faults) 60"+
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Not really a fair comparison picking up the difference in screen size when you are comparing the 60ZT to a 65VT which also has the same 5" difference.

I have a ZT on order but considering cancelling and going for a VT as it seems to offer 99% of the picture quality of the ZT unless you need to the ZTs filter in a brighter living room (which I don't).

I am going to make my mind up when I see them side by side.

FrankJH said:
The Samsung's are approximately £3000 and visibly display how much weaker they are than either the VT (only about £300 more) or the ZT , yet its "horribly" over priced.
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What difference did you notice between them when you saw them together ? I am curious how the 8500 stacks up to VT/ZT when I see them together as in the American shoot out the public members rated the 8500 higher than the VT&ZT
 
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Dangerous Dave said:
Not really a fair comparison picking up the difference in screen size when you are comparing the 60ZT to a 65VT which also has the same 5" difference.

I have a ZT on order but considering cancelling and going for a VT as it seems to offer 99% of the picture quality of the ZT unless you need to the ZTs filter in a brighter living room (which I don't).

I am going to make my mind up when I see them side by side.
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For that particular range - one HAS to compare the largest screen size available (as with all manufacturer's , the largest screen size for any given range has a small premium as is standard practice - due to difficulties in producing the very large screens)

Putting it another way - comparing the price of a 50" or 55" to a 60/65 in another range is ALWAYS going to look out of whack , to say the later is nearly double the price is misleading and not helpful to anyone.


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What difference did you notice between them when you saw them together ? I am curious how the 8500 stacks up to VT/ZT when I see them together as in the American shoot out the public members rated the 8500 higher than the VT&ZT
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I think the Samsung was a high quality product, but for me it just wasnt up to either of the Panasonic's. If I had a max of £3000 to spend then I wouldnt be that concerned and go for the Samsung, but after seeing the VT (and hoping to see the ZT soon) for ~300 for the VT to my eyes the latter looked better (the blacks especially)
 
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