Well as it's a global market what you are suggesting should happen is impossible. So while it may sound like a good argument in your head, it doesn't really work out in reality.
I never said you could. If you read my post, I said:
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Are next gen highend GPU's going be priced like the Titan ??
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Well as it's a global market what you are suggesting should happen is impossible. So while it may sound like a good argument in your head, it doesn't really work out in reality.
I never said you could. If you read my post, I said:
It's the way people express themselves that is the common problem.
Global market or not doesnt matter.
1k GPU in USA = £830 in UK
800$ GPU in USA = £650 in uk
Works the same.
Such a shame the world is full of people who don't care. if this carries on we will see the Normal High end that costs £300 now.. costing £600+ in the future...
And the reason for that is simple.. Its because people will pay it, its a nasty circle of rising prices because companies think they have a right to charge so much.
When the next Gen from AMD come out i expect to see prices that are around the £500 mark
And i expect £600 ish from Nvidia... Purely because of the price Titans at now.
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Oh dear: not currency exchange rates.... I was talking about coordinated boycotting of the product due to the high price.
The simple fact is that nVidia believe they can sell enough of these at the current price point to achieve their profit target. Why should they sell them at £650 per unit if they can sell them at £850 per unit and still sell them at a rate they're comfortable with.
I've said it before and no doubt I'll say it again... in an aggressive market you'll rarely find displays of altruism where a Company says:
"oh OK I can make easily £250 profit per unit but instead I'll make £50 profit per unit just to be seen as the nice guy"
Your argument above isn't coherent really... it just sounds like you're non-constructive moaning... and I'm a 7950 cheapskate owner!
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Well, it works other ways. What's it got to do with you whether he wants to pass an opinion on the Titan card and whether it's worth its price?
This is how discussion forums work really.
Because on another thread, and I assume the post that was deleted here was of the same vein: he was moaning specifically at people who had bought one and posted something along the lines of somebody's wife shouldn't give permission... it was all a bit cringe worthy.
It wasn't generic, Titan is overpriced blurb.
Separate thread, i am specifically discussing what the thread title asks here.
the Post that was removed was the same as i put back minus some wording that made it look like i was attacking some people.. I used no names.
The way I see it NVidia have built professional Quadro cards and decided to offer them to gamers who are willing to pay, they would kill off the GTX680 if Titan wasn't priced at such a premium.
As it stands the extra horsepower is there for those who want it and are willing to pay through the roof for it and at the same time it doesn't impact the rest of their line-up. A GPU similar to Titan will be released at mainstream prices eventually but for now we will have to wait.
As it stands the extra horsepower is there for those who want it and are willing to pay through the roof for it and at the same time it doesn't impact the rest of their line-up. A GPU similar to Titan will be released at mainstream prices eventually but for now we will have to wait.
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That is fair enough, I just see this as an excuse for Nvidia and AMD to charge Over inflated prices in the future. I just hope its not the case.
The difference being yields.
If they charge this in future it's not like they'll fly off the shelves with the availability that a future 8970/780 part will have...
YOUR BASKET
1 x PNY Nvidia Tesla K20 Workstation Solution Graphics Card - 5GB - GDDR5 SDRAM £2999.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX Titan 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £839.99
Total : £3,851.38 (includes shipping : £9.50).
I think it is cheap.
1 x PNY Nvidia Tesla K20 Workstation Solution Graphics Card - 5GB - GDDR5 SDRAM £2999.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX Titan 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £839.99
Total : £3,851.38 (includes shipping : £9.50).
I think it is cheap.
This is certainly not going to happen, only those who don't quite understand the market would ever believe this to be the case.
Companies like AMD and nVidia don't work on a profit per item basis, they prefer to work on a profit over volume.
a GTX780 at £800 would make less profit for nVidia than a GTX680 at £400 simply because there will be significantly more people willing to spend £400 on a GPU than £800, so they sell significantly more, and thus make significantly more.
The argument of "well this will set a precedent" is incredibly myopic, as those that make it tend not to be able to see beyond the very basic logic they've used to indicate a higher price means more profit, which only works on a single item basis.
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I can't even see the problem tbh. Yeah it's expensive we all no that, but..
There is already HD 7850's and GTX 660's for the poor folk
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The more serious gamer with a bit of cash can grab a HD 7970 or GTX 680.
The tech Enthusiast or gamer with deeper pockets can has got the option for something a bit pricier with a bit more grunt the 'Titan'.
If you can't afford it or think it's overpriced, don't buy it. Why is that a problem unless the real issue is that you want it but can't afford to spend that kind of money.. Grab something in your own price range instead and quit bitching.
Haters got to hate.
There is already HD 7850's and GTX 660's for the poor folk
.The more serious gamer with a bit of cash can grab a HD 7970 or GTX 680.
The tech Enthusiast or gamer with deeper pockets can has got the option for something a bit pricier with a bit more grunt the 'Titan'.
If you can't afford it or think it's overpriced, don't buy it. Why is that a problem unless the real issue is that you want it but can't afford to spend that kind of money.. Grab something in your own price range instead and quit bitching.
Haters got to hate.
YOUR BASKET
1 x PNY Nvidia Tesla K20 Workstation Solution Graphics Card - 5GB - GDDR5 SDRAM £2999.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX Titan 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £839.99
Total : £3,851.38 (includes shipping : £9.50).
I think it is cheap.
It's not cheap, and this is a fact, you may think it's worth it, but it isn't the same as being cheap.
Cheap basically means it's inexpensive, its price is low, or its value exceeds its cost, and neither of them apply to Titan as you can get other alternatives that perform significantly better at half the cost.
But again, that doesn't mean you can't or don't think it's worth it, it's just a bit nuts to say that it's cheap.
Comparing it to a K20 is a bit disingenuous as well, because firstly you would have no use at all for a K20 yourself since you don't use anything that would require it, secondly, it's not actually a graphics card, and doesn't come with the software, and the software/hardware support that nVidia would offer to a K20 customer.
So that example for you, it doesn't really work. It is however a great option for someone looking/wanting the power of a K20, who can skip the software and hardware support that comes with a K20, then it'd be a great choice for them.
I can't even see the problem tbh. Yeah it's expensive we all no that, but..
There is already HD 7850's and GTX 660's for the poor folk
The more serious gamer with a bit of cash can grab a HD 7970 or GTX 680.
The tech Enthusiast or gamer with deeper pockets can has got the option for something a bit pricier with a bit more grunt the 'Titan'.
If you can't afford it or think it's overpriced, don't buy it. Why is that a problem unless the real issue is that you want it but can't afford to spend that kind of money.. Grab something in your own price range instead and quit bitching.
Haters got to hate.
But there's nothing at all wrong with saying that you think it's a bit of a rip off, not worth it and whatever else.
The issue and bickering is actually coming from the people who are getting bent out of shape because they can't handle reading opinions that they don't like.
I've said I think the 7970 was overpriced, strangely though I never got jumped on by people crying about how I shouldn't be able to express my opinion on a forum just because they don't like that specific opinion.
YOUR BASKET
1 x PNY Nvidia Tesla K20 Workstation Solution Graphics Card - 5GB - GDDR5 SDRAM £2999.99
1 x Gigabyte GeForce GTX Titan 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £839.99
Total : £3,851.38 (includes shipping : £9.50).
I think it is cheap.
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whether or not someone is within their rights to say something (repeatedly) about a product and "anyone who buys one"... the point at which it costs your company a £2500 order is probably the point you should have a rethink about your social interaction media's rules of conduct
So the forum should be censored in case someone suggests a member doesn't buy an expensive item and instead goes for something less?
That's some seriously faulty logic, plus how many times have people suggested 7950s in the place of 7970s, 670s, 680s and so on? That's the same effect really isn't it?
A rule like "don't give people advice on stuff to buy because we want people to buy without knowing their full options just to make sure we make a high profit sale" would never be made.
That's some seriously faulty logic, plus how many times have people suggested 7950s in the place of 7970s, 670s, 680s and so on? That's the same effect really isn't it?
A rule like "don't give people advice on stuff to buy because we want people to buy without knowing their full options just to make sure we make a high profit sale" would never be made.