Call of Duty ruined a generation of gamers?

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You've probably already read this story but I thought it threadworthy.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/03/13/call-of-duty-red-orchestra-2-interview/

John Gibson from Tripwire Interactive says:

One of the things that Call of Duty does, and it’s smart business, to a degree, is they compress the skill gap. And the way you compress the skill gap as a designer is you add a whole bunch of randomness.
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He goes on to say that because of the compressed skill gap and that so many people play COD that they have difficulty playing more traditional shooters. Or at the very least do not feel as "good" playing them.

I have to agree for the most part, as much as I like some COD games this is exactly the feeling I always got when playing. Randomness and non-player controlled death are prevalent, not to mention how easy it is to die. As he says it is smart on the part of the makers of COD, it makes people feel like they're doing great when maybe they're not.
 
I totally agree. Now I do play CoD from time to time and it's pot luck sometimes.

I could be playing a match and go 30-0, but then a rematch might result in my going 10-10 because of random squads spawning right behind me in which I stand no chance. Or a random guy firing his Remington across the map and somehow getting a kill.

You do see a random player who is legitimately good regardless of the skill compression but I've seen plenty of people with negative kill/death ratios of around 0.15 with 10k kills, have a great game and go 20-0 which you wouldn't expect.

But at the end of the day, every game is different, some are more hardcore than others, totally depends on the player, but CoD certainly does pander to the player so they don't rage quit.
 
Agree. I played COD for a while before getting fed up with it, during that time I was pretty damn good if I do say so myself, nearly always top of the leaderboards (console btw). Yet other 1st person shooter I seem to be rather average or worse. Battlefield BC2 was a good example of this, I was always in the bottom 50% for games unless I got very lucky, just never seemed to be able to win firefights like I could on COD.
 
While I agree COD has been dumbed down and since COD4 is all about perks and killstreaks. It is coming from someone who developed RO2 the people that blamed people who bought it for it being utter crap.
 
Heh, I used to moan to my friends that it was crap due to dying from helis/random missles etc all the time. I suppose it suits the pick up and play style of most gamers tho as there isn't a learning curve that other games have.
 
Cool thread. I think it's an argument that will rage on and on. I like CoD. Not a massive player, but I like to pick it up inbetween games I play that are really heavy on story. Though I would'nt say it's 'ruining the industry' as people will always have different preferances, I'd certaily say it was doing our industry a more harm then it is good in the public eye.
 
I think it can also be blamed for ruining a generation of games since, particularly FPS games, tried to emulate it and become the next CoD.


Can it also be blamed for publishers insisting on multiplayer modes? :p
 
What ever happened to a good classic shooter. Farcry did it for me. You spawned with a pistol... and you had to move around the map and pick up weapons as you went. so much fun

The gunfights were amazing.

All im seeing now is kill cams!!!
 
COD/BF3 is just a poor shooter, it's as simple as that, it's a game i would never bother to play.... even if the next one was good.

COD/BF3 hasn't ruined a generation of shooters, because it's amazing how many people dont play it !!!!!! i dont know anyone who plays it !

Here yes, but this is a mainstream large forum, it's like Tescos, but if you join a really good quality forum, then nobody plays rubbish like COD, you never hear the name mentioned.

you need to be on a forum where you have access to old school shooters that are modded, i.e DOOM and CRYSIS MODS``...plus specialist fanbase mobs, there are loads of modded games out there.

the one thing that has killed shooters is:- Multiplayer/ online gaming/skill points/rewards etc, it's spoilt Borderlands 2 as well, the SP game is a bitch on your own, especially the boss fights, they're only really intended for 3 of you together
 
I think COD has made online gaming disposable just like everything else in the World today. Pick it up, Use it & throw it away.
No depth is put in the game & no longevity is wanted by companys that just want to rinse the latest fad. This has watered down games like COD so that they not only appeal to the masses but also have inbuilt time clocks that run down as the new version is released.

Have to admire there business model but for Gamers it means **** games, **** back up, **** servers & **** players.
 
Edit: 4t5> Just saw your comments. Utterly agree.

BF3? Everything is player controlled here.. how is it in any way comparable to CoD?

CoD is good because it's pick up and play, it takes no real learning curve other than learning the controller and getting used to twitch gaming. The reliance on perks and killstreak awards (choppers etc) is down to the developers/publishers trying to make the game fresh and exciting for the general public when they have released there 10th game in the series. They haven't worked on the graphics, they haven't pushed the envelope, it's just like stupid hats in TF2, a pointless addition that ruins the core game.

One major thing that has made it daft and reduced skill is auto aim. This should never have been introduced into the multiplayer of any FPS game, it isn't just CoD.
 
I quite like it for that very reason.
I treat it like a Pub Game style board/card game. Pick up and play for a laugh now and then. I agree it's not good for Core/Serious gamers, but tbh I don't think that's what it was intended for - it was intended for mass market Joe Gamer (mainly for the money in reaching such a large demographic, I agree).

As a "casual" gamer when it comes to FPS, I'm glad that I have the option of the latest CoD games as an easy pretty random game. If there was only super-skill based games that a core Elite of players that play nothing else always won I would never play any FPS.
 
Even Quake 3 multiplayer and Unreal Tournament let skill shine through clearly, but I guess games that aren't noob friendly just don't sell enough.
 
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