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More rumours of no more X79 CPUs

Most likely it is Haswell-E on X99,as I don't think there is any point of releasing Ivy-E now, as we are more closer to next-gen technology anyway. Plus Haswell-E on X99 is likely to have different pins config even if it is still socket 2011.
 
wolvers said:
Looks like IB-E will be on a new platform, X99, if it even appears. Otherwise they're going straight to Haswell-E.

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/28808...gen-performance-platform-to-be-x99/index.html
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Further digest of that article here:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/02/28/intel-haswell-e/1

which basically says to take it with a grain of salt as Ivy-E samples have already been seen
http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/intel_ivy_bridge_e_engineering_sample_spotted_on_ebay.html


The last leaked Roadmap I had seen shows Ivy-E alongside Haswell on the desktop, so could be that Servers wont get a new platform/chip until the respin e.g. Broadwell.

http://www.legitreviews.com/news/14815/


Could be that Ivy-E will still be a 2011 part, but needs a new chipset? according to ebay seller of the Ivy-E ES parts, they wouldn't boot?

Could it be possible that Ivy-E may move to DDR4 which was finally specified by JEDEC - necessitating a new platform e.g. X99
 
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I forgot about those slides with new SB-E CPUs listed. Still, there's nothing on those leaked slides to suggest that IB-E will be x79 though.
 
I see what you mean, but changing the chipset wouldn't really serve a purpose like it did with the Sandy/Ivy LGA1155 boards as X79 already has PCI-E 3.0, USB 3.0, etc. If they do bring IB-E out with a new LGA2011 chipset it would be most likely that the chips/boards would be interchangeable like the SB/IB ones were.
 
wolvers said:
I forgot about those slides with new SB-E CPUs listed. Still, there's nothing on those leaked slides to suggest that IB-E will be x79 though.
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http://wccftech.com/intel-roadmap-confirms-ivy-bridge-e-launch-q3-2013-faster-sandy-bridgee-cpus-q2/

Is a bit more in depth, and goes on to confirm what we know to be true (i.e. MSI/Asus etc have revealed boards) regarding haswell chipsets being named e.g. Z87. Give that the next set of chipsets are 80-Series, I assume X99 will be the generation following Haswell, to line up with Desktop 90-Series chipsets.

Personally I would assume the roadmaps are still correct - Haswell will launch for the mainstream, Ivy-E will carry on on X79 boards (new models of which have been released as recently as Feb this year by MSI for example), X89 will not happen, and X99 will be the platform refresh for Haswell-E or by that time I would expect probably Broadwell-E.
 
illuz said:
EVGA have an x79 board coming out real soon, the platform isn't dead just yet!
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Exactly - and we aren't talking about budget boards either - typically towards the end of a socket - manufacturers already know, and the only boards that tend to be released are cut down budget ones, e.g. Socket 775 you can still buy a Budget ASRock board G41 Chipset
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-077-AK&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=1490
(same with skt 478 before that - 1156 was an exception as it was never really a budget friendly platform), I imagine H61 will be around for a while as a budget 1155 board, long after Haswell is released.


smelly_legend said:
If there are no new chips on the x79 socket:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(
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I think you can rest reasonable assured that there will be some
 
I certainly hope it's not true; I was looking forward to being able to drop in an 8-12 core replacement for my existing LGA2011 processor later this year.
 
It makes sense to revise the X79 chipset to include new features such as higher speed RAM and more PCI lanes. Does not mean that we are talking a different socket to provide those features or that the IB-E will be incompatible with current x79 boards.

Intel have maintained for quite a while now that IB-E will be socket compatible with x79 boards.
 
wolvers said:
Isn't x79 lacking some PCI-E lanes with 3 or more GPUs?
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Don't see how - the 2011 platform has 48x PCI-E lanes total (40 from CPU, 8 from Chipset). 1155 platform in contrast only has 24x Total (16x From CPU, 8 from Chipset)

Only differences are that the on CPU PCI-E Controller was upgraded to a PCI-E 3.0 vs the PCI-E 2.0 in Sandy/Sandy-E. Any motherboards with more lanes than listed above, is either an additional controller chip (usually with added latency), or some other kind of trickery.


trickynickyuk said:
tut tut tut intel if they do all that money people spent and only 1 gen worth of CPU disgraceful
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I assume you only read the first post - if you read everything else, you would see that it has been suggested that this is unlikely.
EDIT: Not that it would be the first time - Socket 5 / Socket 8 / Socket 423 / Socket 1156 all only supported 1 generation, and thats without going into the various chipsets for other sockets that only supported 1 generation or specific FSB (e.g. socket 370/478/775 revisions)


Saundie said:
I certainly hope it's not true; I was looking forward to being able to drop in an 8-12 core replacement for my existing LGA2011 processor later this year.
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According to the leaked roadmap above and rumors, there may even be an 8 Core Sandy-E processor i7-3980X anyway before Ivy-E launches.


Besty said:
It makes sense to revise the X79 chipset to include new features such as higher speed RAM and more PCI lanes. Does not mean that we are talking a different socket to provide those features or that the IB-E will be incompatible with current x79 boards.

Intel have maintained for quite a while now that IB-E will be socket compatible with x79 boards.
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Higher RAM Speed is largely depended by the memory controller which is integrated into the CPU - further PCI-E Lanes would need more pins and therefore a socket change, but Ivy-E will be the same as the desktop and move from PCI-E 2.0 to PCI-E 3.0, doubling bandwidth and making slot splitting e.g. 16x allocated as 2x 8x Slots less of an issue.
 
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Armageus said:
Only differences are that the on CPU PCI-E Controller was upgraded to a PCI-E 3.0 vs the PCI-E 2.0 in Sandy/Sandy-E.
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IIRC X79 was actually the first PCI-E 3.0 chip-set wasn't it?


Armageus said:
EDIT: Not that it would be the first time - Socket 5 / Socket 8 / Socket 423 / Socket 1156 all only supported 1
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Not to be pedantic, but Socket 7 boards were backwards compatible with Socket 5 CPU's, and you could get a voltage adapter for Socket 5 boards to fit Socket 7 and Super Socket 7 CPU's.
 
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It was the first 3.0 chipset though iirc not officially certified 3.0 (the bit nvidia grumbled about).

I hope non of this has any truth, was hopeful x79 would see me through to hw-e.
 
ubersonic said:
IIRC X79 was actually the first PCI-E 3.0 chip-set wasn't it?
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pgi947 said:
It was the first 3.0 chipset though iirc not officially certified 3.0 (the bit nvidia grumbled about).
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Not actually owning one, then sorry if I got this wrong - wikipedia's 2011 article was somewhat vague :)





ubersonic said:
Not to be pedantic, but Socket 7 boards were backwards compatible with Socket 5 CPU's, and you could get a voltage adapter for Socket 5 boards to fit Socket 7 and Super Socket 7 CPU's.
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Quite right - I was actually thinking of Socket 4, the one that took the first gen Pentiums 60/66Mhz - but for some reason my brain thought that was Socket 5... those were the days lol.
 
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