custom build pc help

ollybongo1 · 20 Mar 2013 at 01:07

Hi I want to build my own pc from scratch, I made one on the overclockers website, it came in around £1,600
I did some research and found I could get it for around £900 ish, does anyone know if this is a compatible system. here is my specs

Components
Case - Xigmatek Asgard With Clear X Side Panel
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-057-XG
£32.99

Power Supply - Corsair TX650 V2 650W
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Processor - Intel Core i7 3770k 3.5Ghz
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Processor Cooler - Stock Manufacturer Heatsink and fan

RAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3
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Motherboard - Asus Sabertooth Z77
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Graphics card - AMD/ATI Radeon HD 7750 1GB
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Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 1TB Hard Drive 7200rpm 32MB Cache
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2nd Hard Drive - Seagate Barracuda 1TB Hard Drive 7200rpm 32MB Cache

3rd Hard Drive - None

Sound card - Creative SoundBlaster Recon 3D Professional
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Optical Drive - Asus BW-12B1ST Blu-Ray Re-Writer with DVD/CD ± Re-Writer
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2nd Optical Drive - Asus BW-12B1ST Blu-Ray Re-Writer with DVD/CD ± Re-Writer

Network card - Integrated 10/100/1000Mbps

Wireless Card - Asus N15 300MBPS
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Memory Card Reader - UKGC All in 1 Internal Card Reader

Extra Ports - 2 x USB 3.0 Ports

Case Modifications
Case Paint - Standard Case Paint

Lighting Kit - None

Case fans - Standard Case Fans

Quiet Case Fans - 2 x Corsair AF120 Quiet Edition

Cable Management - UKGC Standard system

Cable Braiding - None

Sata Cables - UKGC Standard system

Hard Drive Dampening - None

Thermal Compound - UKGC Standard System

Fan controller - Zalman ZM-MFC2 Multi Fan Controller

Peripherals
Monitor - None

2nd Monitor - None

TFT Dead Pixel Check - None

Keyboard / Mouse Combo - Microsoft Wired Desktop 400

Keyboard - None

Mouse - None

Mouse Mat - Razer Scarab

Headset - None

Speakers - None

Software
Operating System - Microsoft Windows 8 Professional

Internet security - None

Office Suite - None

Multimedia - None

After Sales
Warranty - Standard 3 Year Warranty

Build Time - Standard 5 - 10 Working Days

£1,436.32

Sub-Total: £1,436.32 via overclockers

bremen1874 · 20 Mar 2013 at 03:22

Welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately inadvertently promoting OcUK's competitors in this way is verboten. You're going to need to reword your question or it'll get removed before you can get any sensible answers.

ollybongo1 · 20 Mar 2013 at 04:14

bremen1874 said:
Welcome to the forum.

Unfortunately inadvertently promoting OcUK's competitors in this way is verboten. You're going to need to reword your question or it'll get removed before you can get any sensible answers.

Sorry I am not trying to do that, or advertise anyone, I will remove links if requested. I was trying to find these 1 at a reasonable price (pc parts) and 2 making sure these pc parts are all compatible with each other
so I am not going to waste money buying pc parts that ar not going to work together, compatibility

Akagi · 20 Mar 2013 at 05:08

ollybongo1 said:
Sorry I am not trying to do that, or advertise anyone, I will remove links if requested. I was trying to find these 1 at a reasonable price (pc parts) and 2 making sure these pc parts are all compatible with each other
so I am not going to waste money buying pc parts that ar not going to work together, compatibility

If you don't do it you will receive your first warning as the rules are there for you to read. If you choose not to read them, it is not OcUK's fault. :rolleyes:

NO PROMOTION OF COMPETITORS < linky

The parts will work together yes, however it is a very unbalanced system unless you specifically need plenty of processing power and RAM, but not much in the way of graphical horsepower.

What will the main use of the system be?

Assuming that it will just be for general usage and gaming, this spec will offer you massively increased performance.

There is no need for 16GB of RAM unless you plan on editing/working with multiple large video/image files at once or running virtual machines or servers etcetera, it will offer no performance increase, and RAM can easily be added to further down the line anyway.

The i7 will offer no real world performance increase over the i5 unless you plan on encoding and converting video or applying the system to other tasks that will make use of hyperthreading.

There is no point getting an intel K series CPU with the stock cooler, as the point of the K series chips is that they are hugely overclockable. You cannot safely overclock using the standard Intel cooler.

The Sabertooth, while being a fantastic motherboard, offers nothing special over the cheaper competition, it just looks 'quirky'.

The HD7950 will perform considerably better than the weak HD7750 (see here)

The motherboard in the spec I have put together, combined with the 750W PSU will allow for you to add a second HD7950 further down the line if you so wish.

The Xigmatek Alfar is a far better chassis than the one you chose in many respects, not least of which is build quality. It would be questionable to build such a fantastic computer in a cheap case.

Getting a single 2TB HDD is easier and cheaper than getting two 1TB HDD's unless you plan on setting up some kind of RAID array for backup purposes.

An SSD is almost essential in a build of this calibre for installing the operating system and your most frequently used programs to, to speed up the overall system performance. If you rely on a mechanical hard drive, it will hold the system back because of the slow read/write speeds.

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £179.99
1 x Samsung 128GB SSD 840 PRO SATA 6Gb/s Basic - (MZ-7PD128BW) £113.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £112.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 Pro 64-Bit DVD - OEM (FQC-05955) £109.99
1 x XFX Pro Series 750W XXX Edition Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £84.98
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £79.99
1 x Xigmatek Alfar Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black/Black £49.99
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVI38G160C9K) £38.39
1 x Xigmatek Dark Knight SD-1283 Night Hawk Edition CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £34.99
1 x Asus 24x DVD±RW DRW-24B5ST SATA ReWriter - Black (OEM) £18.95
Total : £1,077.74 (includes shipping : £11.25).

ollybongo1 · 20 Mar 2013 at 05:41

i would like this pc because it looks powerful with the parts I selected, but with the Xigmatek Alfar Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black/Black as you stated witch is available on the overclockers website.
I will use this for everyday use including watching dvds, blue rays, downloaded films, games like the sims 3, flash games e.g social networking games and my music library witch is now about 12GB ish. can you recommend if this custom pc I picked above will work well together or will some parts underperform and downgrade the rest of the system in any way, do I need to upgrade any parts

zakblood · 20 Mar 2013 at 06:09

ollybongo1 said:
i would like this pc because it looks powerful with the parts I selected, but with the Xigmatek Alfar Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black/Black as you stated witch is available on the overclockers website.
I will use this for everyday use including watching dvds, blue rays, downloaded films, games like the sims 3, flash games e.g social networking games and my music library witch is now about 12GB ish. can you recommend if this custom pc I picked above will work well together or will some parts underperform and downgrade the rest of the system in any way, do I need to upgrade any parts

looks yes, but in real life it might not be very balanced, just give us your budget and let us pick one or spec it for you, this way you will get a better build, just a few simple questions first, what do you use you pc for mainly etc, and then anything else etc.

we already can see what you want and what's not needed from your first post, i also see you haven't taken the advice given and removed those links

the only thing i dont understand is the need for 2 bluray writers?
or 2 1tb hdd's, when it's cheaper to get a 2tb model and have more space and ports free etc?
a good cpu but a low end video card, this is whats throwing most as it's unbalanced, high end cpu normally would have a better video card.

and your also not going to overclock the pc at all? so no coolers needed? just stock ones i see, ah well it's your money...

Akagi · 20 Mar 2013 at 06:28

For your proposed usage you could get away with spending far far less on a PC and still have it do everything you want it to extremely well. If you spend £1500 on a PC it would be capable of running all of the most demanding games out there (such as Crysis 3, Metro 2033, Far Cry 3 and so on) on very high settings indeed. If you have no intention of playing such games, or even working with programs like those found in the Adobe Creative Suite to create and edit large and complex files, it would be wasted money really. Especially when you take into consideration how quickly the value of PC parts decrease.

Something like this would do everything you need, and it wouldn't hang about while doing it either:

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £82.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00403) £79.99
1 x Asus F2A55-M AMD A55 Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £67.99
1 x Asus BC-12B1ST BluRay-Rom / DVD-RW Drive OEM £59.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £59.99
1 x Adata XPG Xtreme v1.0 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17100C10 2133MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AX3U2133XC4G10-2X) £49.99
1 x Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
1 x Xigmatek Helios XTK231 Mini Tower Case - Black £24.98
Total : £578.46 (includes shipping : £10.50).

It is also worth noting that the above system will still be capable of running most mainstream titles on respectable settings, and it will even allow for you to play the highly demanding games I mentioned earlier, just on lower settings.

You will be able to max out games like The Sims 3 without any worries whatsoever, and you will most likely do so with insane frame rates, well into triple figures.

If you want to ignore me and spend two or three times too much on a system that you won't utilise effectively, be my guest, it's your money

I've said my bit, now i'm off

zakblood · 20 Mar 2013 at 06:39

1 x Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - OEM £235.99
1 x Gigabyte X79-UD3 Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £179.99
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional Soundcard - Retail (70SB135600001) £89.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £79.99
2 x LG BH16NS40 16x SATA Internal BDRW - OEM £74.99 (£149.98)
1 x MSI HD 7750 2048MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card £71.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX16C10B1BK2/16X) £59.99
1 x XFX Pro 550W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £54.98
1 x Arctic Cooling Freezer i30 Intel Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011) £32.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black £32.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
Total : £1,020.86 (includes shipping : £12.50).

a socket 2011 motherboard and cpu and a normal cooler, had to pick one as this doesn't come with stock one
16gb of ram
a 2gb video card, of your spec, not mine
a SB sound card, a pro version your spec
2X 16X speed bluray rewriters
a better spec psu
your spec of case
a 2tb hdd
and a 300mbps wireless card

not near what your asking price wise but i'm guessing unless you go i5 you wont get it either no matter where you get your bits from

option 2 this is more than enough for what your using the pc for,

1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional Soundcard - Retail (70SB135600001) £89.99
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £82.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £79.99
2 x LG BH16NS40 16x SATA Internal BDRW - OEM £74.99 (£149.98)
1 x Gigabyte F2A85XM-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 micro ATX Motherboard £61.99
1 x MSI HD 6670 2048MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card £59.99
1 x XFX Pro 550W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £54.98
1 x Patriot Intel Extreme Masters 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVI38G186C9K) £41.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black £32.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
Total : £786.83 (includes shipping : £12.50).

have included what you have asked for, just altered some bits, as your doing something you shouldn't either i'd remove the download films bit as having 2 bluray writers to me makes me think your doing something you shouldn't be

quote"I will use this for everyday use including watching dvds, blue rays, downloaded films, games like the sims 3" end quote

Akagi · 20 Mar 2013 at 06:44

zakblood said:
1 x Intel Core i7-3820 3.60GHz (Sandybridge-E) Socket LGA2011 Processor - OEM £235.99
1 x Gigabyte X79-UD3 Intel X79 (Socket 2011) DDR3 Motherboard £179.99
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional Soundcard - Retail (70SB135600001) £89.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £79.99
2 x LG BH16NS40 16x SATA Internal BDRW - OEM £74.99 (£149.98)
1 x MSI HD 7750 2048MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card £71.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX16C10B1BK2/16X) £59.99
1 x XFX Pro 550W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £54.98
1 x Arctic Cooling Freezer i30 Intel Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011) £32.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black £32.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
Total : £1,020.86 (includes shipping : £12.50).

a socket 2011 motherboard and cpu and a normal cooler, had to pick one as this doesn't come with stock one
16gb of ram
a 2gb video card, of your spec, not mine
a SB sound card, a pro version your spec
2X 16X speed bluray rewriters
a better spec psu
your spec of case
a 2tb hdd
and a 300mbps wireless card

not near what your asking price wise but i'm guessing unless you go i5 you wont get it either no matter where you get your bits from

The guy said he wanted to use the system for watching films, playing flash games and The Sims Zak

Doomedspeed · 20 Mar 2013 at 06:53

ollybongo1 said:
i would like this pc because it looks powerful with the parts I selected, but with the Xigmatek Alfar Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black/Black as you stated witch is available on the overclockers website.
I will use this for everyday use including watching dvds, blue rays, downloaded films, games like the sims 3, flash games e.g social networking games and my music library witch is now about 12GB ish. can you recommend if this custom pc I picked above will work well together or will some parts underperform and downgrade the rest of the system in any way, do I need to upgrade any parts

For those uses the pc seems very over specced.. and unbalanced.

One of two option would suit you easily (both have already been specced above)
a 3570k with a 7850/7950 would max everything and be futureproof for the next 3 years. If you not doing heavy video editing or cad work you won't see the benifit of an i7. Its a waste of money...

Other option is the cheaper A10 build, this will play games well and save you a lot of money..

Your spec is very unbalanced and doesn't match you're needs.

zakblood · 20 Mar 2013 at 06:53

you need to let me finish me edits first acme15 , your too quick

as i had already said what doom above said a few posts up, so agree with both of you

Akagi · 20 Mar 2013 at 07:08

zakblood said:
you need to let me finish me edits first acme15 , your too quick as i had already said what doom above said a few posts up, so agree with both of you

Heheh, sorry bud

zakblood · 20 Mar 2013 at 07:13

no worries, my spec's are train wrecks anyway so says Hono

but he's still in bed so hasn't seen it or laughed at it as yet

Akagi · 20 Mar 2013 at 07:17

zakblood said:
no worries, my spec's are train wrecks anyway so says Hono but he's still in bed so hasn't seen it or laughed at it as yet

Hono is a meanie :rolleyes:

(love you really Hono

)

I'm looking forward to when the mods wake up. Those rainforest links are still there

(*psst*, you should really remove them ollybongo1)

ollybongo1 · 20 Mar 2013 at 07:49

lool sorry guys I just read zaks post

made me laugh... I re looked at my specs and realised what your saying, yeah i'll be happy with one blu ray drive re writeable and a normal second dvd rw as I am getting a 22 or 23 inch 3d monitor to watch my 3d films, and to quote im not illegally doing anything just making sure im getting good ****. anyways back to the film thing, I meant to stream my movies e.g lovefilm and Netflix I have a subscriptions, please change my pc custom build to whatever you please just please keep the processor I selected the Intel Core i7 3770k 3.5Ghz
might overclock this to 4Ghz if it supports this with a extreme cooler
I might overclock it as I may buy black ops 2, far cry 4 or mw4 when it eventually comes out
P.S when I get ma new pc. you wana buy dvd??? jokes

Doomedspeed · 20 Mar 2013 at 08:25

You can over lock the 3570 to 4.5ghz easy and it will play games just aswell as the 3770k at 4.5. Just putting it out there...

zakblood · 20 Mar 2013 at 08:26

1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - OEM £245.99
1 x Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7850 OC Windforce 2X 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with Tomb Raider & Bioshock PC Games £173.99
1 x Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D Fatal1ty Professional Soundcard - Retail (70SB135600001) £89.99
1 x Plextor M5S 128GB Solid State Drive - (PX-128M5S) £82.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £79.99
1 x LG BH16NS40 16x SATA Internal BDRW - OEM £74.99
1 x Kingston HyperX Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C10 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (KHX16C10B1BK2/16X) £59.99
1 x XFX Pro 550W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £54.98
1 x OcUK Tech Labs - Corsair H60 Performance Intel Liquid Cooling Solution (Socket 1155 / 1156 / 1366) £39.95
- 1 x Corsair SP120 Performance Series High Pressure - Dual Pack (CO-9050008-WW) £25.99
- 1 x No Fan Required £0.00
- 1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) £8.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Windowed Case - Black £32.99
1 x TP-Link 300Mbps Wireless N PCI Express Adapter (TL-WN881ND) £16.99
Total : £1,002.82 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Akagi · 20 Mar 2013 at 09:06

Doomedspeed said:
You can over lock the 3570 to 4.5ghz easy and it will play games just aswell as the 3770k at 4.5. Just putting it out there...

The last i5K I overclocked would just about manage 4.4GHz on a Z77 Sabertooth, but it was probably just a bad chip

Bacon? · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:00

For your uses OP I think any of the above builds are overkill

I'd rather personally get something like this, note the 500GB SSD

YOUR BASKET
1 x Samsung 500GB SSD 840 SATA 6Gb/s Desktop and Notebook Kit - (MZ-7TD500KW) £299.99
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x Pioneer BDR-S07XLT 12x BluRay / 16x DVD±RW 50GB Drive - Black (Retail) £79.99
1 x Asus Xonar D2X 7.1 PCI-E Sound Card £79.99
1 x Zalman MS800 Plus Midi Tower Case - Black £79.99
1 x Seasonic G series 450w '80 Plus Gold' Modular Power Supply £69.98
1 x Gigabyte F2A85X-D3H AMD A85X Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £64.99
1 x Alpenföhn K2 Mount Doom CPU Cooler (Socket 775 / 1155 / 1156 / 1366 / 2011 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / FM1 / FM2) £59.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-15000C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Kit (PV38G186C9K) £41.99
Total : £891.86 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Doomedspeed · 20 Mar 2013 at 10:01

acme15 said:
The last i5K I overclocked would just about manage 4.4GHz on a Z77 Sabertooth, but it was probably just a bad chip

Proobably, there is some thst can break 5Ghz. I get get 4.7 on my 2500k easy..

Anyway, zakk's spec above us spot on, if you feel you need the i7.. Well balanced.