Girl found dead in house with dogs 'out of control'

[Hedge]

The usual oh no surprise it's staffies brigade.

Morons like to mistreat staffs and strut around thinking they are hard. When nice families bring up staffs they are one of the best family dogs you can own.

My girlfriends staff is absolutely the softest cutest dog I've ever seen. She sleeps on my knee and I've never seen her growl or be remotely aggressive in almost a year.

It's such a shame scumbag owners feel they a vicious staff would raise their street cred so they mistreat them and train them to be aggressive.

 

[Rroff]

So your saying that untrained Staffies are not any more prone to violence than say untrained Labrodor's? I understand that generally the fault lies with the owner but that doesn't excuse the fact that Staffies are blantly more violent and require a more responsible owner than many other breeds imo.

To a degree it doesn't even matter which is the more prone to violence (tho I have my own views on that) one of those breeds is a lot more dangerous than the other regardless of temperment if they do decide to attack.

 

[Hedge]

And the reason you don't see labradors in many aggressive dog stories it's because most of their owners are either blind, middle aged or posh folk who don't use their dog as a status symbol unlike ****head chaos who breed masses of staffs, English bulls etc and market them to other chavvy *****.

Most of these stories come from the usual council estate retard backgrounds.

 

[The IPB]

A labrador bit a chunk of my staffs ear off.

He only wanted to say hello

 

[Apopcalyptic]

So your saying that untrained Staffies are not any more prone to violence than say untrained Labrodor's? I understand that generally the fault lies with the owner but that doesn't excuse the fact that Staffies are blantly more violent and require a more responsible owner than many other breeds imo.

I think that is a generalisation(he says, before making a generalisation himself...). Staffies and other bull terriers are bought by scummers as they use them as an accessory to intimidate. The fact remains that breeds of this sort are powerful, working animals. If they aren't properly trained, or a trained to have a propensity toward violent behaviour (through neglect or improper training), then of course tragedies of this sort will continue to occur.

Blame the deed, not the breed.

 

[Jason2]

And the reason you don't see labradors in many aggressive dog stories it's because most of their owners are either blind, middle aged or posh folk who don't use their dog as a status symbol unlike ****head chaos who breed masses of staffs, English bulls etc and market them to other chavvy *****.

Most of these stories come from the usual council estate retard backgrounds.

This. Hit the nail on the head.

 

[Firestar_3x]

Why is it always Staffies though? When was the last time a pack of labradors went on a rampage?

Waste of time with that one, people seem unwilling to accept the natural traits which some breeds are around for and the jobs they are designed and hard wired to do.

Yes it may be the softest dog in the world but temperament is a funny thing, they can snap for no reason.

Case in point, we had a springer spaniel, I never trained it to retrieve birds without damaging them, but the dog seemed perfectly able to do the task without any input from myself, hmm wonder why that might be.......

Yes you can train any dog to be aggressive, not got an issue with that, but some dog breeds are more predisposed to aggressive behaviour.

 

[PAz]

Why is it always Staffies though? When was the last time a pack of labradors went on a rampage?

Because you don't typically get a bunch of wanna-be-hardmen chavs buying labradors and using them as part of the wardrobe.

 

[aln]

Never understand people who own staffies when they got minors in the house. Not to generalise but there known for murder,violence and minor offences.

They're also called the nanny dog because they're generally protective of minors. Though to be fair, the girl was visiting, thus not part of its pack, thus different story.

The problem with staffies is not that they're more violent it's the extreme amounts of harm they can inflict if and when they are, and the fact they're sadly popular with the scumbag owners who like them because they can inflict said damage.

My family had a lot of staffies, most of them woud run away and hide in the case of violence. Had an alpha one that had to be kept on top of too. I don't think it's really a breed thing. Seeing a staff crap itself and run away from an attacking jack russell was a wonderfuly funny thing.

Had another that'd jump any fence and take itself walkies over several miles into the town centre, beg for food in the butcher take it into WHSmiths to eat. Despite being a complete and utter monster in size, he was probably the softest dog I've ever seen.

 

[-BA-]

Why is it always Staffies though? When was the last time a pack of labradors went on a rampage?

Lol, aye. Only rampage they would go on is who could shred the upholstery in the back of the car first or who could eat their dog food quickest

 

[edscdk]

If she was visiting where was the house owner?

my guess will be she let her self in and got eaten as an intruder... I tell people I know never to enter the house if I am not in because I don't know what the dogs will do.. I am the leader in the dogs eyes if i'm not there one of them will assume control and I don't know what they will decide to do...

also what's this significant police presence for? are they expecting local dogs to riot? a dog uprising?

 

[Rroff]

They're also called the nanny dog because they're generally protective of minors. Though to be fair, the girl was visiting, thus not part of its pack, thus different story.

This is one thing that annoys the **** out of me, because the dog is soft as soft with their kids way too many staffy owners believe they aren't a problem and turn a complete blind eye to the symptoms when they become uneasy or agressive towards other children that aren't part of their "family".

 

[PAz]

If she was visiting where was the house owner?

my guess will be she let her self in and got eaten as an intruder... I tell people I know never to enter the house if I am not in because I don't know what the dogs will do.. I am the leader in the dogs eyes if i'm not there one of them will assume control and I don't know what they will decide to do...

Such a hugely valid point that will always get overlooked because these were staffs.

 

[Mark A]

whether they're supposed to be good around kids or not, they should never be left unattended when kids are around. Any dog can snap and turn violent, it has happened many times in the past. It's not always dogs that are in the wrong hands that turn nasty.

I'm shocks how many Staff owners don't realise they own a potentially very dangerous animal.

Such a hugely valid point that will always get overlooked because these were staffs.

That still comes down to owner negligence. If they know that someone who visits them will let their selves in, then they should have locked the door.

 

[PAz]

I'm shocks how many dog owners don't realise they own a potentially very dangerous animal.

Corrected for you.

 

[Defy Belief]

This is disgusting. Where were the parents/why would they allow them to visit alone? Who in their right mind would leave their own daughter in a house of 5 clearly out of control dogs, sickening.

 

[Edrof]

If she was visiting where was the house owner?

my guess will be she let her self in and got eaten as an intruder... I tell people I know never to enter the house if I am not in because I don't know what the dogs will do.. I am the leader in the dogs eyes if i'm not there one of them will assume control and I don't know what they will decide to do...

I have no side to take in this, but have a question: owning dogs and "not knowing what [your] dogs will do" in a certain situation...is that applicable to all breeds?

 

[Jason2]

whether they're supposed to be good around kids or not, they should never be left unattended when kids are around. Any dog can snap and turn violent, it has happened many times in the past. It's not always dogs that are in the wrong hands that turn nasty.

I'm shocks how many Staff owners don't realise they own a potentially very dangerous animal.

Whilst I agree that dogs should never be left unattended with children, many times these families allow their children to jump on the dog ect then complain when it attacks. Believe me, I've studied dog behaviour and they give out a lot of warnings before they attack, however families are completely oblivious to these signs.

No, that simply isn't true.

 

[Mark A]

Whilst I agree that dogs should never be left unattended with children, many times these families allow their children to jump on the dog ect then complain when it attacks. Believe me, I've studied dog behaviour and they give out a lot of warnings before they attack, however families are completely oblivious to these signs.

No, that simply isn't true.

What isn't true?

 

[Jason2]

You said staffie owners don't realise they own a potentially dangerous animal. I'm saying that could be said for any breed. But once again you choose to single out the staffie, just as all newspapers do.