Girl found dead in house with dogs 'out of control'

A Staffy is certainly built in a way that will cause you more of a problem than a Daschund if it does attack but I think the notion the breed is inherently an aggressive, dangerous to people breed is codswallop frankly.

They've gained a bad rep recently and this has coincided rather conveniently with their fashion amongst chavs.

They've had a bad rep for a long time only they were often confused with and obscured by the american pitbull hitting the headlines, more lately with pitbulls banned from this country the Staffies have come more into the spot light.

I think part of the problem is that within the last decade or so they've been increasingly bred from those with better temperments and become more accustom to being house dogs which is what a lot of people have experience with but there are still plenty around that don't have that breeding and/or aren't so well trained/brought up. From what I remember there was historically 3 main forks of the breed, those bred for hunting which tend to be very dangerous once they get their teeth into something, those bred as range companion animals (which tend to be where a lot of the ones people own come from) that tend to be the ones that are quite docile with those they consider their family, etc. and those bred for fighting that tend to be more intelligent examples but also can be quite unstable (more likely to be the mistreated ones) and potentially very dangerous.
 
We have evolved our way to the top that's we are here now able to discuss this can't see a ******* staff doing the same thing. :rolleyes:

But intelligence exists in all forms of animals. Ants, monkeys, dolphins ect ect. Not on the same intelligence of us, of course, but I don't see how that means we should be able treat them with cruelty. They still feel.

No dog ever killed for pleasure.
 
Just because someone is big and tall and equipped doesn't make them inherently more aggressive or violent though.

If the 7ft 20stone guy with a knife was a complete fairy who wouldn't harm a fly, he still wouldn't be much good to you would he?


Where did I mention their mentality traits?
 
They've had a bad rep for a long time only they were often confused with and obscured by the american pitbull hitting the headlines, more lately with pitbulls banned from this country the Staffies have come more into the spot light.

Interestingly other places quote similar but from the perspective that banned pitbulls are still being bred and are being increasingly described as Staffies to try and get round the ban.
 
Where did I mention their mentality traits?

Nowhere, which is why your post was completely pointless without the context of mentality which I added. Mentality is pretty much the entire issue, to ignore it is to completely avoid the core of the discussion.
 
But intelligence exists in all forms of animals. Ants, monkeys, dolphins ect ect. Not on the same intelligence of us, of course, but I don't see how that means we should be able treat them with cruelty. They still feel.

No dog ever killed for pleasure.

Right, you can say this with 100% certainty?

Because of course that is patently untrue, there are plenty of animals that kill for pleasure, including dogs.
 
No dog ever killed for pleasure.

Now you ARE spouting rubbish - it's a well known fact that many animals kill for sport. My Jack Russell used to love killing rats and mice - he would grab them by the neck and shake them to death in second with his little tail wagging all along.

:D
 
as for labradors

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-injuries-Labrador-savages-Poole-Harbour.html

A three-year-old boy could be scarred for life after he was savaged by a dog during a family picnic.

Logan Trim was left with horrific facial injuries when he was mauled by the black Labrador in a park at Poole Harbour, Dorset.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ador-savages-Poole-Harbour.html#ixzz2Ogwz68uc
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Nowhere, which is why your post was completely pointless without the context of mentality which I added. Mentality is pretty much the entire issue, to ignore it is to completely avoid the core of the discussion.

You missed the point.

Dogs with knives for teeth that weigh as much as a typical teenager will be more effective in a fight than its polar opposite.

So you wouldn't agree a t Rex would be more dangerous to a human than a chicken?
 
oh look another one

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/574589-black-labrador-bites-newborn-baby-to-death-in-bangkok/

BANGKOK: -- A labrador mauled a couple’s nine-day-old baby son to death before the dog was itself killed, reportedly by the boy’s grief-stricken father.

The tragedy happened at the family’s home on Soi Sakaengam in Bangkok’s Bang Khun Thian District on Wednesday evening.

another

NEW DELHI: Mauled by a pet Labrador dog, an 11-month-old girl died on Tuesday evening after doctors at a Noida hospital lost a three-hour battle to save her.

The Labrador, a breed known for its gentle ways, belonged to a dog breeder who is on the run. The dog was taken away by the municipal corporation
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This is a bit like the gun control debate.

You don't need a AR-15, and you don't need a dog with more muscle than you can control.

Since we can't control people who fire AR-15s at kids and we can't control ***** with pumped up Staffies, then the obvious solution is to ban both. Specifically ban the breeding of the entire subclass of powerful dogs, in 10 years we won't be having these threads since nobody ever died in the jaws of a spaniel.

I'd assume the actual breed would continue to be bred in safer countries.
 
but lets all says its always the same dogs yeah

im a gas engineer and visit 7 - 8 properties a day

about a third of those usually have a dog.

ive been bitten twice, once was a cocker spaniel that appeared friendly as i entered property and the other was a yorkie terrier

from personal experience larger breeds never give a problem (Rottweilers, bullmastiffs, German shepherss etc)

are always welcoming
 
You missed the point.

Dogs with knives for teeth that weigh as much as a typical teenager will be more effective in a fight than its polar opposite.

So you wouldn't agree a t Rex would be more dangerous to a human than a chicken?

No, you're missing the point, rather spectacularly that there is more to a dog being dangerous than just how strong it is.

Overly simplistic examples with dinosaurs won't make your completely irrelevant point any more relevant.
 
This is a bit like the gun control debate.

You don't need a AR-15, and you don't need a dog with more muscle than you can control.

Since we can't control people who fire AR-15s at kids and we can't control ***** with pumped up Staffies, then the obvious solution is to ban both. Specifically ban the breeding of the entire subclass of powerful dogs, in 10 years we won't be having these threads since nobody ever died in the jaws of a spaniel.

I'd assume the actual breed would continue to be bred in safer countries.

This is worse than a ps3 v 360 debate.
 
Lol, aye. Only rampage they would go on is who could shred the upholstery in the back of the car first or who could eat their dog food quickest :)

When I was a boy, our neighbours had a huge labrador (and a german shepherd). We used to take care of them when the neighbours were away and I often fed them. It was startling how quickly they ate. It was like they had a powerful vacuum cleaner in their guts that just sucked the food down. They could suck down a bowl of food each almost before I stood up after putting the bowls down. I remember being really impressed by it, because it was a lot of food to eat in seconds and I was ~10. They probably ate as much as I did. Big, vigorous dogs who'd run just for the fun of it.
 
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