Father sentenced to 10 years for killing baby daughter

Jason2 · 27 Mar 2013 at 01:11

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...osing-bet-Arsenal-Champions-League-match.html

Hope someone does this ***** on the inside. Nothing but a coward. And I won't even say on anything on the trial. It's nothing short of disgrace. No justice whatsoever.

Frodo1805 · 27 Mar 2013 at 02:30

Hope somebody slices him up nicely.

Energize · 27 Mar 2013 at 07:00

Another murder wrongly classed as manslaughter, love the British injustice system.

d_brennen · 27 Mar 2013 at 07:09

Jason2 said:
Hope someone does this ***** on the inside. Nothing but a coward. And I won't even say on anything on the trial. It's nothing short of disgrace. No justice whatsoever.

How very Christian

haz_pro · 27 Mar 2013 at 07:25

Trusley sick; it completely bemuses me how people can be violent towards a harmless child.

semi-pro waster · 27 Mar 2013 at 07:43

Energize said:
Another murder wrongly classed as manslaughter, love the British injustice system.

Granting that we don't have the full facts and that the reporting is via the Daily Mail so hardly a bastion of quality but it might be perfectly correctly classed as manslaughter. For instance if the mens rea for murder wasn't present then it can't be murder so perhaps it's right that it is classified as something else.

A tragic case no doubt but adjusting the parameters of what are crimes to get the "right" result in particular cases would be worse. If this was part of a pattern of behaviour as was suggested then I'd be more worried about why that wasn't picked up on before the death of the child.

Energize · 27 Mar 2013 at 09:40

The mens rea for murder and voluntary manslaughter are the same, on the balance of probabilities it's hard to see any diminished responsibility defence here which would reduce the murder charge to manslaughter.

VIPER258 · 27 Mar 2013 at 09:43

Absolutely disgusting.

[FnG]magnolia · 27 Mar 2013 at 09:45

Jason2 said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...osing-bet-Arsenal-Champions-League-match.html

Hope someone does this ***** on the inside. Nothing but a coward. And I won't even say on anything on the trial. It's nothing short of disgrace. No justice whatsoever.

There's something entirely jarring about your post and your signature.

Pestilence · 27 Mar 2013 at 09:48

Ban football. Sick filth.

Cosimo · 27 Mar 2013 at 09:51

d_brennen said:
How very Christian

He's praying that it happens so it is.

tom_e · 27 Mar 2013 at 10:09

I imagine he'll be quickly set upon by the other inmates so probably won't last 6 months never mind 10 years

Deific · 27 Mar 2013 at 10:22

Cannot fathom how 10 years is seen as justice when he stole a potential 80 years of someones life.

deuse · 27 Mar 2013 at 10:37

Hang him high.

Gackt · 27 Mar 2013 at 10:43

Pestilence said:
Ban football. Sick filth.

And while you're at it ban music, movies, books, and especially social interactions all together.

realBabelfish · 27 Mar 2013 at 11:55

tom_e said:
I imagine he'll be quickly set upon by the other inmates so probably won't last 6 months never mind 10 years

probably put on protection wing with the rapists, paedos and vulnerable prisoners.

he will be safer there than in genpop with the nutters. i never saw this as a proper solution. if you do something so bad people want to lynch you then its your fault. why should you get special protection?

RDM · 27 Mar 2013 at 11:58

realBabelfish said:
he will be safer there than in genpop with the nutters. i never saw this as a proper solution. if you do something so bad people want to lynch you then its your fault. why should you get special protection?

Because we have a duty of care to all prisoners?

realBabelfish · 27 Mar 2013 at 12:34

RDM said:
Because we have a duty of care to all prisoners?

but where is the care of duty locking up a shop lifter with murderers?

there is a lot more violence in genpop than on the protected wings. why should someone wait to get slashed before they can go on a safer wing?

IMO violent prisoners should be put on a separate wing to non-violent ones.

RDM · 27 Mar 2013 at 12:45

realBabelfish said:
but where is the care of duty locking up a shop lifter with murderers?

How likely is the shoplifter to actually end up in a Cat A prison? How likely are they to be attacked? High risk prisoners are, after all, at much greater risk.

realBabelfish said:
there is a lot more violence in genpop than on the protected wings. why should someone wait to get slashed before they can go on a safer wing?

IMO violent prisoners should be put on a separate wing to non-violent ones.

But that problem isn't going to be solved by putting high risk prisoners in general population, you would only make things worse.

Jason2 · 27 Mar 2013 at 12:46

d_brennen said:
How very Christian

Ha maybe it isn't, but it's hard to remain calm when you read about such cases. There was one not too long ago when a guy repeatedly smashed a baby against a wall. Would you be forgiving of such a disgrace of human being? If you can, you're better man than me.