Bioshock 3 - Infinite

The New York Times claimed that while "not everything in the game is perfect", the game itself "is confirmation that in the hands of the right creators, video games are the most sophisticated form of not just interactive entertainment, but of multimedia storytelling as well.

This is the biggest point for me. It's affirmation of what the medium is capable of in the hands of the right people.
 
Well I tried to play this but urgh just can't get the mouse right, not helped by the settings keep randomly resetting to defaults to.

EDIT: Well I give up, feels like mouse accel on even with it very much off and trying all the different ini tweaks and vsync tricks... shame but its basically unplayable like this for me.
 
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Problem is its not producing consistant mouse input - the same amount of physical movement of the mouse isn't necessarily producing the same amounts of movement ingame which makes it pretty much unplayable for me. No amount of playing with settings has completely erradicated it so far.

EDIT: Think I might have fixed it - set the range 0.05 to 0.2 and sensitivity to 0.05 then went ingame and set it to max (0.2) and applied settings and so far is producing consistant mouse input - any other settings even with the same sensitivity but a different range is producing very whacky results.
 
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Anyone got the Heartbreaker achievement yet ? Every handyman I meet is constantly flying about kicking ass and I just never have enough time or health, to get enough heart shots. There must be a way of doing it, but I can't even come close. Any ideas ? :(
 
Anyone got the Heartbreaker achievement yet ? Every handyman I meet is constantly flying about kicking ass and I just never have enough time or health, to get enough heart shots. There must be a way of doing it, but I can't even come close. Any ideas ? :(

Yeah I did it on the 1st handyman you come across, it's difficult and you have to be really good at dodging the attacks, he killed me about 6 or 7 times before I got him though!

I'm also sure at least one of my shots didn't hit him in the heart and I still got the achievement. :)
 
lol at the guy who rushed through it in one sitting of 10 hours, what a waste.

I suspect if they were paying so little attention to the game, the ending was probably lost on them too.

Steam says my play total is 26 hours. Knock a few hours off for the fact that I was alt-tabbed out of the game for small chunks of time here and there, and that's still a hell of a long game. Even so, I apparently still managed to miss some infusions, telescopes, kinetoscopes and voxophones. Guess I'll get them the next time...whenever that is.
 
Around 17 hours total here (taking into account pausing, breaks and so on), and I did explore every area thoroughly, taking time to stare at the sights, but annoyingly seem to have missed some voxophones, infusions and telescopes/kinetoscopes. :(

I guess there must be some I missed when
revisiting an area after moving into an alternate reality. I saw one or two new voxophones, but tended not to re-explore every corner of an area when this happened - for example the Good Time Club.


On a different note, I was half expecting all the characters to appear on screen with the names of the voice actors and take a bow during the credits, like a stage play! Or at least something like the end of Return of the King, with drawn pictures and names. Dunno why, it just felt like they were actual actors playing in a story, rather than just characters.
 
Just finished this, wow, incredible story, Ken Levine is up there with Hideo Kojima when it comes to game narrative.

After watching ending breakdowns and explanations, i still have no idea whats going on ^^
 
Well Steam has me clocked at 11 hours and I'm pretty sure I explored a lot of it. Seems I only got about 3/4 of the Voxophones though so guess I missed some stuff. Tempted to go ahead and replay it straight away on 1999 mode but maybe I should give it a little break and finish off Heart of the Swarm first.

They really did start throwing everything at you all at once towards the end. Both enemies and plot. That link Ace Modder posted a page or so back confirmed most of what I thought. The Lutece's were obviously not twins but the same person. Didn't realise the significance of some of the earlier stuff like the heads n tails flip and other things near the start. It is quite right that it is quite depressing when you think that Elizabeth killing the Comstock version of you essentially means she will have never have existed and Anna will never become the same person.
 
It is a sad ending when you consider that Elizabeth(as you know her) will never exist, but the thing that got me....I wanted to destroy Columbia, to tear it apart...I didn't want it to never have existed in the first place! It was cool!:p
 
Well Steam has me clocked at 11 hours and I'm pretty sure I explored a lot of it. Seems I only got about 3/4 of the Voxophones though so guess I missed some stuff. Tempted to go ahead and replay it straight away on 1999 mode but maybe I should give it a little break and finish off Heart of the Swarm first.

They really did start throwing everything at you all at once towards the end. Both enemies and plot. That link Ace Modder posted a page or so back confirmed most of what I thought. The Lutece's were obviously not twins but the same person. Didn't realise the significance of some of the earlier stuff like the heads n tails flip and other things near the start. It is quite right that it is quite depressing when you think that Elizabeth killing the Comstock version of you essentially means she will have never have existed and Anna will never become the same person.

Agreed on how depressing/sad it is, moreso by the fact there was no real 'goodbye' between Booker and Elizabeth. It just sort of...happened.

Although I do think Elizabeth still exists, when they all disappear one-by-one at the end, one still remains before the screen goes to black.

Curious to know what the DLC will be now too. It clearly can't have anything to do with the main storyline so I wonder what they'll do with it?
 
Curious to know what the DLC will be now too. It clearly can't have anything to do with the main storyline so I wonder what they'll do with it?


I think it can. They can just open up another area with a long self-contained side mission in it. It can be done(and I hope that is what they do...not a fan of playing as other characters in dlc).

I want to learn more about Fink...great character!
 
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I feel like my life is so empty now.

You will probably have to wait all the way after the credits to show a bit more truth.

This is my interpretation of the very last bit after the credits. Spoiler so read once you've finished.
After the credits you take control again, your are in Booker's house/ office place. You open the door to see if Anna/Elizabeth is in the crib. Then it all fades.

I take this to mean, that after the baptism with the Elizabeths, you are literally reborn to the time when Elizabeth was still a baby, before Comstock etc. So this is a loop of reality where Booker relives his life to rescue Elizabeth over and over again in an Infinite loop.
 
Curious to know what the DLC will be now too. It clearly can't have anything to do with the main storyline so I wonder what they'll do with it?

I thought they said something about additional areas that will just be there if you have the DLC and will pass them by if you don't?

After the credits you take control again, your are in Booker's house/ office place. You open the door to see if Anna/Elizabeth is in the crib. Then it all fades.

I take this to mean, that after the baptism with the Elizabeths, you are literally reborn to the time when Elizabeth was still a baby, before Comstock etc. So this is a loop of reality where Booker relives his life to rescue Elizabeth over and over again in an Infinite loop.

It could be they turn it into a happily ever after thing. It could be they were just explaining where the tune came from that controls the Songbird.

Could also be that they're essentially saying there is a paradox which makes it Infinite. Elizabeth was still responsible for killing DeWitt when he became Comstock. But for Elizabeth to have existed in the first place, DeWitt had to become Comstock in 1 reality in order to kidnap Anna to turn her into Elizabeth in the first place. So its an infinite loop of her never existing to kill Comstock so Comstock existed and the cycle of Booker returning to save her continues.
 
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