Ivy-e roadmap, confirmed

[Random Guy]

What ever happened to the 8 core SB-E intel were supposed to be launching.

I think they need to hold something back for the next "BIG" Product Launches next year

 

[Besty]

delete me.

 

[Besty]

I think your power consumption is massively over the top there besty.
You can get away with an 800W with a 3960x OC'ed and two Titans in SLI.

I did say high-end

I was pulling over 1KW at the wall with my 7970s until my fourth card popped.

 

[Martini1991]

That's more like extreme

 

[Besty]

yeah, still gets beat by Quad Titans through, at least two peeps on the EVGA forums are reporting 1.6KW at the wall for those. Some dood fried his EVGA 1.5KW PSU using Quads.

 

[Alkalinepro5]

Yep

Intel really locked down Xeons this time around.

Imagine the bench scores you'd hit with 32 threads humming along at 4.5ghz+

Strange. Surely Intel would prefer gamers/overclockers invest in Xeon CPU's given the insane price tag attached!

 

[Martini1991]

Strange. Surely Intel would prefer gamers/overclockers invest in Xeon CPU's given the insane price tag attached!

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-421-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=1823

Dunno like, if you could clock that I'd buy one.

 

[Alkalinepro5]

Ivy-E aparently has room on the silicon for 12 physical cores compared to SB-E's 8 lol.

So intel are disabling half of the physical cores this time instead of just 2 like before xD

 

[Besty]

Ivy-E aparently has room on the silicon for 12 physical cores compared to SB-E's 8 lol.

So intel are disabling half of the physical cores this time instead of just 2 like before xD

The chip will have a power budget, how would you like the chip cut up sir? 4 high speed cores, 6 lower speed or 12 lowest speed ?

I think 6 is a good balance between clock speed and cores, highly clocked quad core Ivy chips are already snapping at the heels of SB-E in some scenarios.

All Intel will do when enabling all 12 cores is to drop the clock speed to 2.2GHZ, its not what we want on the desktop imo.

We won't see a 12 core chip clocked at 5.5GHZ, the tech is not there yet.

 

[Kaapstad]

yeah, still gets beat by Quad Titans through, at least two peeps on the EVGA forums are reporting 1.6KW at the wall for those. Some dood fried his EVGA 1.5KW PSU using Quads.

I use that PSU, almost the first thing the manual tells the user to do is set single rail for multi GPUs. Would failure to do this fry the unit.

If these guys are pulling 1.6KW at the wall they must be modding the cards bios or something similar. I measured 3 Titans and a hex core all overclocked and the rig was pulling 1100watts at the wall, adding a 4th Titan should take this to about 1370watts.

 

[wolvers]

If it died from being loaded to it's max capacity it must have had a fault, or its a crap design.

I don't get that PSU anyway. Lots of 20A rails in a high end PSU, what good are they? Seems odd. I'd rather have less rails capable of 30A. Not sure I'd be happy connecting £3-4k worth of GPUs to a single rail either.

 

[Besty]

I use that PSU, almost the first thing the manual tells the user to do is set single rail for multi GPUs. Would failure to do this fry the unit.

If these guys are pulling 1.6KW at the wall they must be modding the cards bios or something similar. I measured 3 Titans and a hex core all overclocked and the rig was pulling 1100watts at the wall, adding a 4th Titan should take this to about 1370watts.

Going off topic here but if you look on the EVGA titan forum you will see two different posters who are reporting just over 1.6KW under 3DMARK.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

What I can't figure out here is what the i7 Ivy-E 4820K 4c/8t offers over the i7 Haswell 4770k? Ok skt2011 on x79 has some advantages over skt1150 I'm sure but seriously where is the value in these Ivy-E parts... There has to be something more on offer here we haven't seen yet.

 

[tbh]

What I can't figure out here is what the i7 Ivy-E 4820K 4c/8t offers over the i7 Haswell 4770k?

I'm wondering this myself, my next upgrade will probably be one of these two and unless the Ivy-E part overclocks significantly better than the Haswell 4770k I can't see why I wouldn't opt for the latter? (especially as it will likely be cheaper)

 

[Martini1991]

That's similar to the 3770k/3820 debate now.
Well, the same

 

[wolvers]

3820 gives you more PCI-E lanes, quad channel RAM, an upgrade path and a soldered IHS which pretty much guarantees higher clocks (although that's negated by the IPC being slightly slower). It's also cheaper than a 3770k.

Not all of those will be true of 4770k vs 4820k, particularly the upgrade path.

 

[MrMarvelous]

I'm hoping my 2700K will last me a good few years yet but i'm so bloody tempted by these new processors and I don't even know why.

This plays everything fine, think I might have the upgrade itch?

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

There was some speculation about a possible 3980X 8 core SB-E chip being released, so that might help satisfy those of you craving an 8 core 16 thread chip (though I don't think it's confirmed)

 

[tbh]

Not all of those will be true of 4770k vs 4820k, particularly the upgrade path.

Seems to me that the choice will be pretty clear; if you want 4 cores go Haswell, if you want 6 then go Ivy-E?

 

[Dave2150]

Or just limit it so you can only run a single processor like the Xeon W3xx0 series.




Im not sure about the architecture that will be in the new consoles but AMD's current CPU's are not true 8 core processors just CPU's capable of handling 8 threads like Intel's i7's (though they do handle it better than the i7's even if per core performance is lacking). Piledriver doesn't have 8 separate cores it has 4 separate "modules" each consisting of two cores and shared cache/FPU. To use a simple analogy an 8 core Piledriver CPU is more like 4x dual core CPU's than it is like an 8 core Xeon.

No one knows anything about the new AMD 8 core cpu's in use on the PS4 yet. Your just assuming they are the old type. Let's wait and see, shall we?