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[FnG]magnolia;24073779 said:
Is he your understudy oh great one?
Christians and Muslims fighting in Egypt
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Is he your understudy oh great one?
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Hey brother 
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The pic was a bit of a tongue in cheek joke, but to answer your question, no not really. The one common thing in all of those countries that are experiencing this orgy of mass violence and death is Islam, but more specifically it's sectarian violence between sects of Islam (Sunni/shia) or in other words the slight difference between interpretations of a book written by nomads who lived in mud huts in the desert 1500 years ago. I think the west instead of bombing these hell holes with munitions, should instead start carpet bombing them with science books on carbon dating and evolution.
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[FnG]magnolia;24073779 said:
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[FnG]magnolia;24073925 said:Hey brother
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I went to school with them. Bell Baxter High School, for what it's worth.
That wasn't the reference but you do try and I'm in a good mood so I'll leave it there.
That wasn't the reference but you do try and I'm in a good mood so I'll leave it there.
lol I don't blame the Christians for retaliating. They've been persecuted in Egypt and Syria for quite some time now.
Crusades were Catholic. Not Christian.
Crusades were Catholic. Not Christian.
There was no distinction between Roman Catholicism and Christian at the time. The Crusades were effectively mainly Christendom v the Islamic World (there were crusades against other groups and even Christian v Christian). The separation of Christendom into Catholicism and Protestantism did not happened until the 16th Century, so it is misrepresentative to suggest the Crusades did not involve Christians, because they did.
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I got a leaflet through my door today that basically said I was going to the pit of doom with it's eternal hellfire.
Christuns be just as cray as dem muslums. Destabilise and let them finish each other off I say, reclaim egypt for our glorious new empire.
Christuns be just as cray as dem muslums. Destabilise and let them finish each other off I say, reclaim egypt for our glorious new empire.
Really to just control people (at least when/where churches had/have power) as well as live off their donations
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Give it a few thousand years and a couple of lasergun Crusades, Scientology will be the dominant religion.
The word religion is a bit of a problem IMO. It's misused, also depends on what Church you are talking about.
As for fiction, you would need to study it a bit first before you really decided IMO.
Control being the key word, if you can control people then people can therefore go out of control. Church was intended for Christians but anybody is welcome as far as I know.
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Harry Hill.
Incorrect. Roman Catholic is and has always been the majority of Christians but not the entirety.
I understand the Schism and Reformation.
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It's not incorrect, even at its most basic Catholics are Christians therefore the Crusades were fought by Christians and it it misrepresentative to suggest the Catholics are not Christians.
At a more complex level, the Crusaders were made up of predominantly the Latin (or Western) Christendom and while the Papacy held hegemony in Western Christendom it was not complete. Also until the Fourth Crusade the Western and Eastern Christian Churches were unified (Known as Universal Christendom) and both fought in the early Crusades (it was at the behest of the Eastern Orthodox that Latin Christianity pursued the First Crusade) although as I said, Christian did fight Christian as well as Muslim and Jew, particularly in Outremer and during the Fourth Crusade and the sack of Constantinople. The truth is that Christendom included the Latin and Orthodox churches as well as Western Europe Christian Nation States and Eastern Nationalist Orthodox Churches. Simply because the Papacy was at the height of its socio-political power during this period shouldn't give the impression that Catholicism was either not Christian or didn't hold authority over Western Christianity (one of the reasons why Pope Urban II declared Crusade was to initiate primacy of the Latin Church over The Christian States and the Franks).
Whether you like it or not, The Crusaders were Christian.
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No - they were not Christian. That's like saying one drunk driver means all drivers are drunks. It's just stupid logic. What they did was in opposition to Christ's teachings. Period.
Aside from you innate prejudices, Catholics are Christians by definition. Whether what the Crusaders did was Christian or Unchristian according to the New Testament is immaterial and beside the point. The point is that the Crusaders were Christian and came from Christian Nation States where Christianity was in it's primacy.
There is also no uniform promotion of pacifism in the New Testament, The Old Testament advocates Holy War and Scripture can (and was) used to justify the Crusades and the actions within those Crusades.
Your logic also fails because while not all Drivers are Drunk Drivers, All Drunk Drivers are Drivers by definition. Just as not all Christians are Catholics, but all Catholics are Christians.
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