Just speccing for a mate

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 10:53

Hi basically i am trying to spec a PC for a friend and was wondering is it better to have an intel i3 with a 7750 2gb card or and amd trinity with a 6670 in hybrid crossfire, both are more or less the same price but i am looking for the best perfomance for the cheapest possible and i need to know that these builds will work, heres the baskets

YOUR BASKET
1 x AMD A10-5800K Black Edition 3.80GHz (Socket FM2) APU Trinity Quad Core Processor (AD580KWOHJBOX) £99.95
1 x MSI HD 6670 2048MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card £59.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £51.95
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £49.99
1 x MSI A55M-E33 AMD A55 Chipset (Socket FM2) DDR3 Micro ATX Motherboard £40.99
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Case - Black £28.99
1 x LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £19.99
Total : £405.90 (includes shipping : £11.75).

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x HIS HD 7750 iCooler 2048MB GDDR3 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H775FS2G) £65.99
1 x Toshiba (7K1000.D) 1TB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA100) HDD £51.95
1 x Kingston HyperX Genesis Grey 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX1600C9D3X2K2/8GX) £49.99
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x MSI H61M-P31-G3 Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £35.99
1 x Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower Case - Black £28.99
1 x LG GH24NS95 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £19.99
Total : £400.84 (includes shipping : £12.50).

ubersonic · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:00

Id say trinity hybrid, the gain in GPU power will offset the loss in CPU power.

snips86x · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:06

Wouldn't you want an A85X board instead of the A55?

If your running hybrid, would it not benefit from 1866 instead of 1600 RAM?

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:09

snips86x said:
Wouldn't you want an A85X board instead of the A55?

If your running hybrid, would it not benefit from 1866 instead of 1600 RAM?

yeah true 1866 ram would be better and i would go for a more expensive motherboard if i could fit it into the budget, the budget currently is 400

snips86x · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:17

Leprechaun312 said:
yeah true 1866 ram would be better and i would go for a more expensive motherboard if i could fit it into the budget, the budget currently is 400

You can change the RAM as the board supports 1866. You could gaet 2133 for the same price, but I dont know if you can overclock on that board. My Trinity board knowledge is not great.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-062-PA&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1387

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:42

snips86x said:
You can change the RAM as the board supports 1866. You could gaet 2133 for the same price, but I dont know if you can overclock on that board. My Trinity board knowledge is not great.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-062-PA&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1387

yeah i think i'll go with that ram 1866 would be great for the APU, will it be compatible i don't want to build this for him and then realise that X and Y aren't compatible

EDIT: actually looking at the memory compatibility list it does support 2133 memory....hmm.... is 1866 enough or would 2133 be better

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:49

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-017-AD this is on the compatibility list, 2133 and 8gbs for £10 more i think i might add that to the basket

neocon · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:51

You can get a Pentium G860 for £50 ish

HIS HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785F1G2M) HIS HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785F1G2M) £127.99
(£106.66) £127.99
(£106.66)
Intel Pentium G860 3.00GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail Intel Pentium G860 3.00GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £63.95
(£53.29) £63.95
(£53.29)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD £49.99
(£41.66) £49.99
(£41.66)
Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) £40.00
(£33.33) £40.00
(£33.33)
Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
(£33.32) £39.98
(£33.32)
MSI H61M-P31-G3 Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard MSI H61M-P31-G3 Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £35.99
(£29.99) £35.99
(£29.99)
Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
(£27.49) £32.99
(£27.49)

Total : £404.99

snips86x · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:53

Leprechaun312 said:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-017-AD this is on the compatibility list, 2133 and 8gbs for £10 more i think i might add that to the basket

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-018-TG&groupid=701&catid=8&subcat=1387

The teamgroup is the same price as the 1866, but the CAS is not as great.

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 11:57

neocon said:
You can get a Pentium G860 for £50 ish

HIS HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785F1G2M) HIS HD 7850 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card (H785F1G2M) £127.99
(£106.66) £127.99
(£106.66)
Intel Pentium G860 3.00GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail Intel Pentium G860 3.00GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor - Retail £63.95
(£53.29) £63.95
(£53.29)
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA 6Gb/s 16MB Cache - OEM (ST500DM002) HDD £49.99
(£41.66) £49.99
(£41.66)
Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CM) £40.00
(£33.33) £40.00
(£33.33)
Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) Corsair Builder Series CX 430w Modular '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply (CP-9020058-UK) £39.98
(£33.32) £39.98
(£33.32)
MSI H61M-P31-G3 Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard MSI H61M-P31-G3 Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £35.99
(£29.99) £35.99
(£29.99)
Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black Xigmatek Asgard Pro Gaming Case - Black £32.99
(£27.49) £32.99
(£27.49)

Total : £404.99

hmmmm...... would a pentium not bottleneck the 7850,

neocon · 8 Apr 2013 at 12:02

yes, but performance is still going to be better. actually heard there's not much difference between an i3 and G860

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 12:03

neocon said:
yes, but performance is still going to be better. actually heard there's not much difference between an i3 and G860

if the cpu is bottlenecking the gpu then how is performance going to be better

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 12:06

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=404 the i3 seems to win by a margin at every hurdle whereas the trinity it is more even http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/677?vs=675 the trinity wins in a few areas but in most the trinity isn't far behind

neocon · 8 Apr 2013 at 12:07

the gpu won't be able to run at it's full potential, but that's probably going to be faster than a 7750

anyway difference between G860 and i3 is hyper-threading and i'm sure i read this has no bearing on games

Some info about i3 2100 and G840
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=405

guy is running bf3 on G860 and 7850 2GB

not sure about multiplayer..

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 12:31

neocon said:
the gpu won't be able to run at it's full potential, but that's probably going to be faster than a 7750

anyway difference between G860 and i3 is hyper-threading and i'm sure i read this has no bearing on games

Some info about i3 2100 and G840
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=405

guy is running bf3 on G860 and 7850 2GB

not sure about multiplayer..

hmm... i'll look into this when i get home can't watch the video school web filter blocks youtube

Martini1991 · 8 Apr 2013 at 13:00

neocon said:
the gpu won't be able to run at it's full potential, but that's probably going to be faster than a 7750

anyway difference between G860 and i3 is hyper-threading and i'm sure i read this has no bearing on games

Some info about i3 2100 and G840
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=405

guy is running bf3 on G860 and 7850 2GB

not sure about multiplayer..

At the thread count as it stands now, the HT would probably be fairly useful due to only being dual core.

Leprechaun312 · 8 Apr 2013 at 14:41

Martini1991 said:
At the thread count as it stands now, the HT would probably be fairly useful due to only being dual core.

that's what i thought whereas the pentium is only a dual core no hyperthreading. i'm slightly drawn towards the i3 build now as it leaves more room for upgrading later but the trinity however has potentially slightly better performance due to the hybrid crossfire

Incrauze · 8 Apr 2013 at 15:41

Go for GTX 460 instead of HD 7750,

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i3-3220 3.30GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £92.99
1 x **B Grade** Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (S (HD-257-SE) £45.00
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte H61MA-D3V Intel H61 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £42.00
1 x Avexir Core Blue Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CW) - Blue Light £40.00
1 x XFX Pro 450W Core Edition '80 Plus Bronze' Power Supply £39.95
1 x **B Grade** Zalman Z9 Plus Tower Case with Fan Controller - Black £37.16
1 x OcUK 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £329.09 (includes shipping : £12.50).