Quite Willygobble
Badger, Badger, Badger
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Quite Willygobble
If the tree hugging great unwashed could look at the bigger picture they might realise this cull is definitely needed!
Their population has exploded, their numbers need controlling to avoid having to destroy vast amounts of cattle.
Their population has exploded, their numbers need controlling to avoid having to destroy vast amounts of cattle.
Eh? Deer are already regularly culled. http://www.basc.org.uk/en/codes-of-practice/deer-stalking.cfm
I'm with David Archer on this one.
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Humans also fit this category; are you also supportive of a cull of humans?
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All life should be respected, in my opinion.
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The victorians called, they want they're opinion back.
I don't know why people insist on calling certain animals vermin, rats, pigeons etc, they're all alive now, so have all survived the arms race up to this point, so to call them vermin is well.... stupid and ignorant.
ermmm... what does that have to do with them being called vermin?
"Vermin are pests or nuisance animals, especially those that threaten human society by spreading diseases or destroying crops and livestock."
I don't see why them being alive or 'surviving the arms race' should alter whether they are perceived as pests?
Badger baiting is a truly disgusting and barbaric thing and people who take part in such a thing should be torn apart by lions.
A cull will happen and a humane and controlled cull maybe necessary to keep the badger population under control, but the evidence shows it will have little impact on TB in cattle.
Badger baiting is a truly disgusting and barbaric thing and people who take part in such a thing should be torn apart by lions.
A cull will happen and a humane and controlled cull maybe necessary to keep the badger population under control, but the evidence shows it will have little impact on TB in cattle.
Get your facts right. The results from the Cull showed that Cattle in TB affected areas no longer ended up with TB when the badgers in that area were controlled/culled. Our vet told me this two/three weeks ago, I trust what he says over anything else.
The problem you have, is that once you clear a Badger Set, badgers from different areas then move into the empty set. If they're dirty badgers.. Your tb problems come back.
I don't support Badger baiting either, it was just an example of how things 'Used to be'
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I've no idea, i'm not about to sit and read a few hundred pages to see why but there is plenty to suggest that culling badgers will not have a particularly positive effect on the spread of TB and in some cases even suggestion that it will cause movement of badger populations and increase the spread of TB compared to taking no action.
As above:
The ISG’s work – most of which has already been published in peer-reviewed scientific
journals – has reached two key conclusions. First, while badgers are clearly a source of
cattle TB, careful evaluation of our own and others’ data indicates that badger culling can
make no meaningful contribution to cattle TB control in Britain. Indeed, some policies under
consideration are likely to make matters worse rather than better. Second, weaknesses in
cattle testing regimes mean that cattle themselves contribute significantly to the persistence
and spread of disease in all areas where TB occurs, and in some parts of Britain are likely
to be the main source of infection.
Final Report of the
Independent Scientific Group on Cattle TB
Presented to the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
The Rt Hon David Miliband MP, June 2007
Has there been a more recent in depth investigation I don't know. Maybe you're vet can tell us.
Just my view.
The ISG’s work – most of which has already been published in peer-reviewed scientific
journals – has reached two key conclusions. First, while badgers are clearly a source of
cattle TB, careful evaluation of our own and others’ data indicates that badger culling can
make no meaningful contribution to cattle TB control in Britain. Indeed, some policies under
consideration are likely to make matters worse rather than better. Second, weaknesses in
cattle testing regimes mean that cattle themselves contribute significantly to the persistence
and spread of disease in all areas where TB occurs, and in some parts of Britain are likely
to be the main source of infection.
Final Report of the
Independent Scientific Group on Cattle TB
Presented to the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
The Rt Hon David Miliband MP, June 2007
Has there been a more recent in depth investigation I don't know. Maybe you're vet can tell us.
Just my view.
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I don't know either, but I imagine if the cull is Government funded, and alternative cattle controls are farmer funded, then obviously from a Government point of view its more cost effective to go down the route they don't pay for.
But anyway, I do think its something the people throwing stupid petitions around should get some grasp on before they start telling people to sign up "because fink of the cute little bady wadgers, awwww". But alas, that isn't how internet petitions work.
But anyway, I do think its something the people throwing stupid petitions around should get some grasp on before they start telling people to sign up "because fink of the cute little bady wadgers, awwww". But alas, that isn't how internet petitions work.