Girl hits cyclist then jokes about it on Twitter.

Did I say it was the same? Are you aware that I only ended my post with 'FACEPALM LOL' as an ironic response, or do you just like posting ill conceived knee-jerk reactions?

You expect cyclists to leave the same room as a car would when overtaking, therefore it would seem you don't understand the difference between someone falling off a bike into a stationary/slow moving vehicle and someone falling off a bike and then finding themselves hit by a car at 50 mph because they didn't leave enough room. That is how I read it.
 
the only opinion that counts is from regular cyclist and driver at the same time, because only that person will understand what it is to cycle and drive at the same time and can compare both sides equally.

in this case the makeup covered brat made a comment that was a total pee take and deserves to get a good slap.
 
This tit for tat stuff is rubbish. One motorist doing something bad doesn't justify crap cycling and vice versa. Bad drivers should be punished as should bad cycling.

Absolutely right, of course. However - bragging about it should be punished, whoever commits the offence. Like the Chef James Martin. How do these people think it is in any way acceptable?
 
You expect cyclists to leave the same room as a car would when overtaking, therefore it would seem you don't understand the difference between someone falling off a bike into a stationary/slow moving vehicle and someone falling off a bike and then finding themselves hit by a car at 50 mph because they didn't leave enough room. That is how I read it.

No, I don't expect cyclists to leave the same room... As I said, I was pointing out that some cyclists want to be treated as if they're the full width of a car, but only when it suits them. Simple as that really.
 
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No, I don't expect cyclists to leave the same room... As I said, I was pointing out the irony of cyclists wanting to be treated as if they're the full width of a car, but only when it suits them. Simple as that really.

Well yes it does suit them because they don't need the same amount of room if they are filtering between stationary cars?! There's no irony in it, they are different circumstances...
 
It's nasty, spiteful with the clear intent to wreck someone's life. Hopefully if this wrecks her career the law will allow some form of legal redress against those who have caused it.

She caused it.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, her act was completely out of order and she needs punished but this had nothing to do with her career.

Personally I wouldn't want someone with that mindset, nor the idiocy to post about it on Twitter working for me. How they found out is irrelevant, she did it to herself.

Agreed! People need to realise that there are such things as consequences to what you say, out loud and on the internet. And I believe the people going after her themselves are just as bad and should be dealt with also.

What law have they broken by telling her employee/police of her criminal activity?
 
Sense would suggest that they are stabled at the areas where they can ride without causing injury to the horse hence solving the problem of horses traveling and causing problems on the road, and if you say well not all can afford to stable there horses where they ride well... tough at the end of the day if you can't afford it why the **** did you buy it in the 1st place common sense people please!

You do realise tramac roads are so pervasive in gigs country it's practically impossible to site a stable in an a tea of no roads... Let alone pointing out that many of those stables were there before the road was tarmacrd in the first place. I know a number of stables around here and if you take a horse out on a hack there you have to cross/walk along roads at some point, be that to get to the next bridaleay or just crossing from one field to another. Very few owners will have a h orse and ride then for hours on the road, probably the o not people that do that are the police, most use roads to get from one track to another, just like pedestrians/walkers and motorists moving from one main toad to another...

So by obeying the National speed limit in a clearly signposted NSL zone I'm doing something illegal and unsafe? I highly doubt that!

As usual for this kind of conversation the NSL is a maximum speed... You should drive for the conditions, be that at (god forbid) 20mph on a narrow NSL road, or slowing down when you get to other toad users, be that a horse, cyclist or someone walking along a road without a pavement...
 
I've done it twice! Both times I was told that you can go national speed limit in these zones in most weather except in snowy or icy conditions then you're supposed to reduce your speed by 10-20 mph!

I take it you popped out to the loo when they mentioned about not driving faster than you can stop.

So you think hurtling round a blind bend at 60mph is OK because its a NSL and its sunny.
 
Just because their is a speed limit doesn't mean its safe to do it.


Can I put a scenario forward.

Your traveling at 30mph in a 30mph limit. There is a bus stopped up ahead. You start to overtake the bus still doing 30mph as its a 30mph limit. A child steps out from the front of the bus.

What do you do?
 
NSL doesn't mean do the speed limit no matter what, for example in rural areas there are horses, so therefore you should be aware that unexpected hazards may occur.

Personally I prefer the girl clip-clopping past my house on a Sunday morning to the boy racer who does whizzes by at 2am.

I'm well aware of what NSL means, but your point that there should be no rushing in rural areas makes no sense when that is the very area people are expected (and allowed) to drive faster.

Your statement was entirely counter-intuitive. It is built up areas and residential areas you shouldn't be rushing around.

...slowing down when you get to other toad users...

I laughed at this entirely more than is justified.
 
Well yes it does suit them because they don't need the same amount of room if they are filtering between stationary cars?! There's no irony in it, they are different circumstances...

I'm not disputing there are different circumstances, obviously there are differences between a cyclist undertaking a stationary car and a car overtaking a cyclist at speed, but that's irrelevent to the point I was making.

The quote I responded to originally was:

"For all intents and purposes of the law, a bike is the same width as a car."

I'm simply pointing out that cyclists do not ride as if their bike is the same width as a car, but expect others to drive as if their bike is the same width as a car. Seems pretty ironic to me.

What I'm NOT saying, and what you seem to be having trouble with, is that cyclists SHOULD leave a gap the same width as a car when undertaking stationary cars. I repeat, I am NOT saying that. OK?
 
Just because their is a speed limit doesn't mean its safe to do it.


Can I put a scenario forward.

Your traveling at 30mph in a 30mph limit. There is a bus stopped up ahead. You start to overtake the bus still doing 30mph as its a 30mph limit. A child steps out from the front of the bus.

What do you do?

How many marks is this question?
 
You know what winds me up most about cyclists ( and 99% seem to do it). When you come to a red light, instead of just waiting in line at the point they were in, they ride to the front......then when the lights go green, everyone is stuck behind them again and everyone has to overtake them again!! Saw it happen once again this morning on my way to work.

The arrogance and stupidity of doing this is beyond belief.
 
You know what winds me up most about cyclists ( and 99% seem to do it). When you come to a red light, instead of just waiting in line at the point they were in, they ride to the front......then when the lights go green, everyone is stuck behind them again and everyone has to overtake them again!! Saw it happen once again this morning on my way to work.

The arrogance and stupidity of doing this is beyond belief.

Don't an awful lot of traffic lights now have a box at the front for cyclists to do exactly that. Maybe its the motorist that needs re-educating
 
You know what winds me up most about cyclists ( and 99% seem to do it). When you come to a red light, instead of just waiting in line at the point they were in, they ride to the front......then when the lights go green, everyone is stuck behind them again and everyone has to overtake them again!! Saw it happen once again this morning on my way to work.

The arrogance and stupidity of doing this is beyond belief.

Yep, happens constantly. Jane appears to think it is fine to do this and that they need a car's width to pass them, they who put themselves in that position by not stopping where they were in line with traffic when the traffic stopped!

Don't an awful lot of traffic lights now have a box at the front for cyclists to do exactly that. Maybe its the motorist that needs re-educating

They're certainly becoming more prevalent but that doesn't mean they should :)
 
thread topic - innocent guy gets beaten from his bike by stupid bint

thread contents - all cyclists are the spawn of satan

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It really isn't rocket science. Some cyclists are idiots, as are some drivers. It all boils down to some "people" are idiots, as this tread clearly illustrates. If you can't use the road in a safe manner, while respecting other road users, you have no right to be on the road. That goes for cyclists and drivers.
 
Deserves the book thrown at her, not just for driving away but her terrible attitude tweeting about it.

As a regular road cyclist (I cycle basically everyday to work, 30 miles a day), I follow road rules and I understand that in some instances, cyclists are infuirating as they break red lights etc. But you can say the same thing about motorists, pedestrians etc...so no need for extremist opinions!

I don't hate motorists or pedestrians; only ones who don't care about how they go about the roads etc.
 
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