Girl hits cyclist then jokes about it on Twitter.

[Jono8]

Ahead of the line of traffic is the safest place for the cyclist to be. That's why ASL exist. They are a good thing (and crossing one on red counts as jumping the red light but not a lot of motorists are aware of that - or care. I do, as a motorist and cyclist)

I really don't see how it is the safest place to be. Maybe if there is a left turn....maybe, but at a straight on red light stop? Nope.

 

[Burnsy2023]

I don't think she should lose her degree. However I'm saying the treatment she has got, the naming and shaming and her employers getting involved is fine. A hard, but fair, lesson.

Well I think the state she is in is entirely of her own making, so I don't have any problem there.

 

[Kenai]

So... a thread full of complaints about poor road surfaces, dangerous drivers, badly designed roads, being exposed, vulnerable etc. etc.

...remind me why any of you nutters CHOOSE to cycle?

 

[[DOD]Asprilla]

Or the cyclist has to be subjected to all the cars that just overtook him before the red light , overtaking him again causing more road risk for all involved and potentially slowing the flow of traffic....

Until the next set of lights where the process is repeated. I'd love to see some kind of study looking at how much cyclist slow impact car journey times. I'm willing to bet it has virtually zero impact.

I ride from Surrey to London most days, generally 15-20 miles each way. Traffic volume does have a minor effect on my journey time but I'm still quicker than a car over the distance.

 

[[DOD]Asprilla]

I really don't see how it is the safest place to be. Maybe if there is a left turn....maybe, but at a straight on red light stop? Nope.

Definitely if there is a left turn. Straight on is debatable, but its better than standing sucking bus fumes.

 

[theleg]

Horses get more respect than cyclists on UK roads. It's ridiculous, and further evidence of the unremitting stupidity of the great British public.

Horses are animals who dont have a choice and are usually ridden by teenage girls...Exercising more caution around unpredictable animals and children is evidence of stupidity?

 

[[DOD]Asprilla]

So... a thread full of complaints about poor road surfaces, dangerous drivers, badly designed roads, being exposed, vulnerable etc. etc.

...remind me why any of you nutters CHOOSE to cycle?

We like to suffer and we like the adrenaline.

 

[Gackt]

Good, I hope she loses everything. From the evidence she seems to be an odious woman who brags about causing potentially serious harm to other people. She should be out in the street selling pencils from a cup.

If she want sot brag about it in a public setting (Twitter), then she has to deal with the consequences. As an employer, I wouldn't want this sort of scum working for me.

If she receives punishment and publicly apologises, then we could begin to look at it differently, but until then - no.

 

[Apopcalyptic]

Interestingly enough (having not read the thread in full), I saw this tweet and replied twice (asking if she stopped to give her insurance details, if she stopped at all(which I guess she didn't))(Ugh, parentheses inception).

/completely pointless response.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

You appear to confusing perceived risk with reality.

Mandatory use of cycle helmets would lead to a reduction in cycling and destroy cycle hire schemes whilst saving remarkably few lives or injuries. The argument just doesn't stack up.

Well I'll never go out without a helmet.
I've had two falls: One where I woke up in A&E and I would have been dead or brain damaged without it and the other I would have had a nasty bruised head.
Theres also a member of staff in the next department to us who refused to wear a helmet and she's now in her 6th week in hospital with a head injury.
I've also recently had a mate of a mate who was testing his brakes he'd adjusted, fell off at about 2mph on his drive and hit his head so hard he has lost an eye.

 

[Participant]

Horses are animals who dont have a choice and are usually ridden by teenage girls...Exercising more caution around unpredictable animals and children is evidence of stupidity?

Cyclists are also unpredictable animals though? And children ride bikes too? And what does the horse's choice have to do with anything...because they have no choice they deserve more respect?

Oh dear @ you .

 

[willhub]

You are an awful person.

No, she most likely thought she was clever and awesome at the time of nearly killing that cyclist, then boasts about it on Twitter, and by the looks of it boasted about other stupid things too, sounds like she needs a hard lesson.

It's a good job things spread likee wildfire on Twitter, stops her from doing anything else stupid.

 

[No1newts]

Can I just ask where you got this information about her being hounded? I read that it was reported to the police, that it was reported to her employer. Do you know more about it than I? Where is the hounding? Who is to say it wasnt the same single guy who reported it to both the police and her employer? Or two people or whatever...

You keep saying this is mob action but im not seeing it. If I had seen that tweet, i would have contacted the police as well and it has nothing to with any mob mentality.

Can you explain how she is being hounded please. Nobody is tracking anything down or anything like that. The name of her employer was on her twitter.

I do agree with you about the increase in internet vigilantism, but i dont think it really applies in this case.

Perhaps hounding is a tad dramatic. Perhaps I should have worded it "going further than is required" or some such phrase, but the general point is, report to police, fine. Approaching someone's employer is beyond what is both required and reasonable.

Curiously you are allowed to spread true things about people. There's no real difference between her getting nail by a few folks on the Internet and people's stories ending up in the papers.

The solution is not to run people over, flea the scene and then boast about it on the internet.

I'm not sure what your point is in the first paragraph, it doesn't really make sense, can you reword it a little clearer?

The second part is what I have been saying all along. Approach the police by all means, it is the correct thing to do. But pursuing her beyond that us wrong, two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[theleg]

Cyclists are also unpredictable animals though? And children ride bikes too? And what does the horse's choice have to do with anything...because they have no choice they deserve more respect?

Oh dear @ you .

Nope, cyclists are not animals..well, a girl i saw last week was pretty close but...

Quite rare to see children riding bikes on the busy roads. They all use the cycle lanes.

We are a nation of animal lovers so people dont mind slowing down to avoid distressing a horse.

 

[Biohazard]

That was quite an amusing read, but I was a bit confused by the witness statement.

 

[theleg]

Perhaps hounding is a tad dramatic. Perhaps I should have worded it "going further than is required" or some such phrase, but the general point is, report to police, fine. Approaching someone's employer is beyond what is both required and reasonable.

In your opinion. Many others disagree with you. She was open about her employer, mentioning them on the same page as her admitted crimes. I would imagine she even had some workmates on her twitter contacts so this might have even caused issues at the workplace.

This was posted in the comments section. It seems quite reasonable to me.

You call the employers to give them the heads up that they "may" be associated with this by fact that their employee has media links, usually there is a clause in a contract whereby it stated that you do not bring the company into disrepute by association, not too dissimilar to the old line "& other jobs which may be needed to be performed on behalf of the company, from time to time).

It's polite, ..Most folk here were able to see via twicsy or similar were able to see who she worked for by the fact that there were notes as to where she worked, a newspaper shot of her & others being taken on for PR purposes in the local paper..therefore the association is evident & bad press inevitable, it took me less than 30seconds to find who & where she worked for (without checking her facebook account), therefore others doubtless were able to see the same information put out there!

I've had to deal with a few employees based on their behaviour whereby their actions & employment would bring the firm into the public eye, they were let go on the spot! ..lest they be dragged into "car-crash" media ..no pun intended.

Therefore I actually rang the firm on Monday morning ( & was put through to her department) in order to give them the heads up on what was coming their way in order for them to (if needed) address the situation, they were inundated (their words not mine) by calls over the course of the day.

Judging by the hushed whispered tones of distinct incredulity when I explained how this was taking off on social media, I may well have been the first to "drop the bomb", (I was transferred to her department, let them know & stated that I hoped it was incorrect & simply bragging of a mindless kid, ..sadly it wasn't, however felt obliged they knew ahead of the inevitable "****storm" it has since become (for all the right reasons I hasten to add)
As the firm has numerous offices I imaging there was a deluge to the other locations, the company therefore had time to notify teir reception desks as to a situation & possibly how to field calls.

#EmmaWay 's actions are her own idiot attitude, ..sadly just as she had plastered her own admission of hit & run etc, she had left lots of clownshoe sized clues as to her place of work.

After that it's up to her bosses to decide what next, & is in no way intended to strong-arm them into dispensing with her services, ..though she obviously has tainted them by association, ..& her clear disdain (& lack of humanity) ... presumably including her cycling bosses are lumped in with her remarks & subsequent actions.

having said that, i wouldnt have done it...but i would imagine its cyclists who reported her and they obviously have more of a personal interest in such things.

 

[[DOD]Asprilla]

Well I'll never go out without a helmet.
I've had two falls: One where I woke up in A&E and I would have been dead or brain damaged without it and the other I would have had a nasty bruised head.
Theres also a member of staff in the next department to us who refused to wear a helmet and she's now in her 6th week in hospital with a head injury.
I've also recently had a mate of a mate who was testing his brakes he'd adjusted, fell off at about 2mph on his drive and hit his head so hard he has lost an eye.

I always wear mine but that's because I see few reasons not to. However, your examples are anexdotal rather than statistical and so don't carry much weight. I can point to numerous examples of folks injuring their necks in car accidents or pedestrians being injured to make a much better case for the safety aids I mentioned earlier.

 

[Kazz]

Same old arguments with the same old closed minded posters. Round and round in a fortnightly circle they go, completely forgetting that they've only just finished bleating on about their views from the last time. Any topic that remotely touches on cycling and the thread derails into this shower of poop nuggets.


... don't let me stop you though.

 

[Mr Jack]

I'm not sure what your point is in the first paragraph, it doesn't really make sense, can you reword it a little clearer?

There's no difference between her being publicly outed by people on the web and by the press. Truth is, rightly, a defence against prosecution.

The second part is what I have been saying all along. Approach the police by all means, it is the correct thing to do. But pursuing her beyond that us wrong, two wrongs don't make a right.

She caused this. I have zero sympathy.

 

[Deific]

She's a complete moron and deserves to be spoken to and the appropriate action taken by by the police against her.

However I find it a disturbing trend the witch hunts that quickly now happen on te Internet contacting her employee etc. it's vigilantism in the modern day and a very worrying trend that will need to be clamped down upon at some point. People go out of their way to ruin someone's life behind the anonymity of the Internet under the heading of "good cause" where as in fact it's just as spiteful and hateful as the trolls and Internet abusers out there.

So that makes it right for people to hunt down her employer and potentially ruin her life and career and then glory about it on the net?

Ruin her life? She nearly took someone's life - seriously injuring them for all she knew. If she had killed the bloke would you be speaking differently? If it was your family member she was mocking on her twitter for colliding with, would you?

She LAUGHED at the fact that she hit someone in her car. She found potentially causing someone catastrophic injuries hilarious and worth boasting about.

...and you care if she loses her job? She deserves to be ridiculed in public and be penniless.

Personally, I love the internet witch hunt culture. It hits people far harder than a caution, sentence or fine ever would. It makes truly disgusting human beings genuinely miserable on account of their despicable actions. **** up her life a bit, she deserves it.