MP's - Pay rise

Like I mentioned before, if you lived in cornwall and got a job in scotland, would you keep your home in cornwall? or sell it and move? Clearly you dont expect your employers to give you extra money for your cornwall residence?

Why should it be different for MPs. If they live far away they should relocate or not have taken the job in the first place. Isnt this the way they abused the expenses? claiming upkeep on one residence, then switching..

What if you got a job in Cornwall but your employer wanted you to spend most of the week n Scotland, would you be expected to pick up the cost of that or would you expect your employer to pay for it?
 
What if you got a job in Cornwall but your employer wanted you to spend most of the week n Scotland, would you be expected to pick up the cost of that or would you expect your employer to pay for it?

That is different and you know it. a temporary accommodation is all well and good, a permanent one is not.
 
That is different and you know it. a temporary accommodation is all well and good, a permanent one is not.

But the principle of the employer paying accommodation costs is okay, which is against what you were previously saying?
 
That is different and you know it. a temporary accommodation is all well and good, a permanent one is not.

Whats temporary and whats permanent?

Ive been living in India since the turn of the new year, should I pay for this or my boss?
 
Whats temporary and whats permanent?

Ive been living in India since the turn of the new year, should I pay for this or my boss?

why have you been living in India? because of your own wish or your employers?

The point I am trying to make is, if you are going to become an MP for some place far away, you should live THERE not have two houses. this is 100% difference than your boss saying go Manchester for a week or two and then come back.
 
why have you been living in India? because of your own wish or your employers?

The point I am trying to make is, if you are going to become an MP for some place far away, you should live THERE not have two houses. this is 100% difference than your boss saying go Manchester for a week or two and then come back.

MPs are expected to work in both their constituency and Westminster.
 
why have you been living in India? because of your own wish or your employers?

The point I am trying to make is, if you are going to become an MP for some place far away, you should live THERE not have two houses. this is 100% difference than your boss saying go Manchester for a week or two and then come back.

Do we know what the split of MPs time is between Westminster and their constituency on a yearly basis?
 
Like I mentioned before, if you lived in cornwall and got a job in scotland, would you keep your home in cornwall? or sell it and move? Clearly you dont expect your employers to give you extra money for your cornwall residence?

Why should it be different for MPs. If they live far away they should relocate or not have taken the job in the first place. Isnt this the way they abused the expenses? claiming upkeep on one residence, then switching..

But the whole point of the MP is to represent the community that they were elected in. Hence, they have a home there and one in London.

Their situation is entirely different to the one you outlined :confused:
 
why have you been living in India? because of your own wish or your employers?

The point I am trying to make is, if you are going to become an MP for some place far away, you should live THERE not have two houses. this is 100% difference than your boss saying go Manchester for a week or two and then come back.

Do you understand how being an MP works? Your time must be split 50:50 or so between two places. You have to live in your constituency in order to garner the views of those you represent. You then have to attend Parliament for up to 148 days a year.

If you had a job that required you to live in one place but travel to another to work on a very regular basis, would you not expect your employer to pick up the accommodation costs of the latter?

There also seems to be a bit of a misconception regarding second home costs. MPs' expenses cover rent up to £20,100pa not mortgage repayments.
 
There should be a salary cap of £80k.

Oh, and none of this ******** second-home nonsense. There should be a set budget or allowance for approved accommodation in London, where they can rent whilst on business in Westminster. The rest of the time they'd be living at home.

Scrap the expenses system (or at least limit the amount severely) and make them pay from the hefty wages they command. Pay them 60p a mile if they want to use their car, and give them rail cards if they don't.

I don't see how they need a big wage AND hefty expenses AND travel AND a second home.
 
Am I the only one who reads this and thinks, meh don't care.

MPs are not themselves increasing their pay, it is being done by an independent body. I had my job benchmarked against external competitors and I saw my pay increase by 15% this year. Now other people on the team/ in the company have not, should I say that I am not going to take because others did not get it? No of course not, if it is what I am worth to the company I will take it.

Working in and out of London and being up for public scrutiny for £80k a year is not a great deal, yes they are not on the poverty line with begging bowl in hand but neither are they going to be able to reitre at 30. Also because of the work and scrutiny you want good people doing the job so the pay has to attract good people. Now before you shout they aren't the best people then I say if it's such a easy job then you do it or help get someone competent voted in.

Regarding expenses people in most businesses get some kind of expenses, hotel accommodation, travel stationary etc etc. It is just that this job requires more expenses than a normal job, but why should they pay out of their own pocket for tools needed to do the job. My job would not expect me to provide my own PC, heat, electricity, office etc to do my job. Have they been above board with expenses no, but that doesn't mean they should not get them just that it should be more scrutinised.
 
Am I the only one who reads this and thinks, meh don't care.

MPs are not themselves increasing their pay, it is being done by an independent body. I had my job benchmarked against external competitors and I saw my pay increase by 15% this year. Now other people on the team/ in the company have not, should I say that I am not going to take because others did not get it? No of course not, if it is what I am worth to the company I will take it.

Working in and out of London and being up for public scrutiny for £80k a year is not a great deal, yes they are not on the poverty line with begging bowl in hand but neither are they going to be able to reitre at 30. Also because of the work and scrutiny you want good people doing the job so the pay has to attract good people. Now before you shout they aren't the best people then I say if it's such a easy job then you do it or help get someone competent voted in.

Regarding expenses people in most businesses get some kind of expenses, hotel accommodation, travel stationary etc etc. It is just that this job requires more expenses than a normal job, but why should they pay out of their own pocket for tools needed to do the job. My job would not expect me to provide my own PC, heat, electricity, office etc to do my job. Have they been above board with expenses no, but that doesn't mean they should not get them just that it should be more scrutinised.

Its a gravy train.
You appear to identify with them morally which is sad for you.
 
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