*** League of Legends ***

Not a good night tonight :( 5 losses, 0 wins.
If i cant get Noc (enemy pick / ban) then its a loss as I cant play any other jungler who's capable of carrying the game, since im terrible with Lee Sin, and my other junglers are all the supporty-type (Zac, Sej, etc)

Starting to think about giving up playing too tbh, its not fun at all in its current state - LoL has proven that F2P games with a competitive nature just cannot work in the lower levels.
 
Alpherah said:
Not a good night tonight :( 5 losses, 0 wins.
If i cant get Noc (enemy pick / ban) then its a loss as I cant play any other jungler who's capable of carrying the game, since im terrible with Lee Sin, and my other junglers are all the supporty-type (Zac, Sej, etc)

Starting to think about giving up playing too tbh, its not fun at all in its current state - LoL has proven that F2P games with a competitive nature just cannot work in the lower levels.
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IMO you can carry harder with support type jungler's.

It's the same in any team game, you will always get people that try and spoil it for others, it's whether or not you can put up with it.
 
Alpherah said:
Not a good night tonight :( 5 losses, 0 wins.
If i cant get Noc (enemy pick / ban) then its a loss as I cant play any other jungler who's capable of carrying the game, since im terrible with Lee Sin, and my other junglers are all the supporty-type (Zac, Sej, etc)

Starting to think about giving up playing too tbh, its not fun at all in its current state - LoL has proven that F2P games with a competitive nature just cannot work in the lower levels.
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As benny said, you can carry a lot better with support junglers, if you can constantly channel the kills to your ADC or AP Mid, (although some kills for yourself wont hurt).

Thanks for some games last night Ripjaw and NE0RELOADED, GJ for a first time riven, some advice NE0, when playing support, don't take the last hits, (unless the adc is out of lane) Also, when helping the jungler with wolves and blue, back off just as the wolves about to die, preventing you from stealing the big wolf.
 
Thx i think ima go a lot more and get good with riven, i was so embarased playing adc last night, thats my thing im normaly a good adc and quinns my main yet i did so bad! Every time i go up against a zilien i seem to lose, going to play him a lot whilst he's free to play and figure him out so i know how to counter him better. But as with all games theres always somone better than you lol @ Alpherah i dont understand why you cant have noc? I take it within ranked some champs are banned? Seems a bit daft to me, thankfully ranked isnt somthing im interested in or at least not till im a lot better lol, im up for some more tonight if you guys fancy? Im loving aram atm ;)
 
Yeah, In ranked you ban 3 champs each team, which in my current ELO (1200-1300) Noc is banned about 20% of the time. Then yesterday most games the enemy took Noc first pick which was rage-worthy.

Trying my hand with Vi today, going okay so far - it seems to be better for me then LS/J4.
Also going to save for some of the support junglers, Mao? Naut? suggestions? and give them a go.
 
TomProx said:
As benny said, you can carry a lot better with support junglers, if you can constantly channel the kills to your ADC or AP Mid, (although some kills for yourself wont hurt).
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Carry / Assassin are a lot easier to carry Bronze / Silver games with then support junglers IMO. If you get good with them you can just murder all the enemy teams damage before they can react. You're then not so reliant on your team. Play against a decent Zed and you'll see what I mean. Your carry will just instantly explode leaving the fight as a 4v5. I'm not saying it's impossible to carry games as support junglers but it's easier to deal with poor tanking since you can overcome this with positioning or just use your teams feeder as bait. It's harder to overcome a lack of damage if you're the teams tank.
 
Hecrim and Gangplank are my two main junglers.

Hecrim can just run in and destroy especially if he has ult up., but he does tend to drop off if the game goes mega long.
Gangplank is just a gold whore bc of his Q but does require a new way of jungling. I rush to 6 fast with him and then farm hard and throw ulti down when team in trouble - by the end of most games im so fed on farm and assists im tanked way to much to even care what the enemy are throwing at me.

I used to love Jarven but his ulti is too luck based and really not viable come late game pushes.
Noc I have never got on with and Vii was good back in the day but shes a single focus champ really and I dont really rate her skillset.
 
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Assassin junglers are the way to carry in low level play imo. I don't really play any of them because i'm no good but it's obvious when you play against a good one. <3 Naut jungle though. So god damn strong and hilarious to play.
 
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I started playing Zed for a period of time mid... God he carries hard, you shut down their mid early so they do nothing and in TF focus the AD carry, only real way to counter you is with a Zonyas imo, bronze people generally don't know how to deal with him though.

I'm been playing bad the last few days but I put that down to partying hard and my head not being clear... Give it a few days and I'll be back to playing better... Although I played top Vi last night, that was pretty fun :D
 
cHk4 said:
I started playing Zed for a period of time mid... God he carries hard, you shut down their mid early so they do nothing and in TF focus the AD carry, only real way to counter you is with a Zonyas imo, bronze people generally don't know how to deal with him though.

I'm been playing bad the last few days but I put that down to partying hard and my head not being clear... Give it a few days and I'll be back to playing better... Although I played top Vi last night, that was pretty fun :D
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I love Zed, such a good champion, people complain hes op, but he is a monster at what he does, and thats blowing up squishy targets 1v1.

Anyone tried mobility annie? I was in a ranked game the other night, and normaly i have no trouble at beating annies because i know what she's capable of, but this time, they had built mobility boots, and was just running rings around me, next thing you know shes at bot lane ganking and picking up a double kill, obviously i pinged that she was coming, but i think they under estimated how good it was.
 
Borrish said:
Carry / Assassin are a lot easier to carry Bronze / Silver games with then support junglers IMO. If you get good with them you can just murder all the enemy teams damage before they can react. You're then not so reliant on your team. Play against a decent Zed and you'll see what I mean. Your carry will just instantly explode leaving the fight as a 4v5. I'm not saying it's impossible to carry games as support junglers but it's easier to deal with poor tanking since you can overcome this with positioning or just use your teams feeder as bait. It's harder to overcome a lack of damage if you're the teams tank.
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I prefer support junglers, it means I can go aegis/locket and the support can focus more on wards, it also depends on what the team needs, if you have a squishy top/mid then you need a tanky jungler or you're very likely to lose team fights, whereas if you got a tanky jungler and tanky top you can still teamfight really well as you will have a lot of peel/frontline defense.

If I wanted to carry the game though then I'll just pick Draven, no one in silver really knows how to play against him, as long as your support is there and paying a tiny bit of attention then you will win trades 90% of the time, then you just snowball and win game.
 
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