**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Woden said:
Except you don't know you can do all that on the PS4 either. Sony are being very tight lipped about it. The best I found is they are leaving it up to the publishers, which tells me the console at least has the ability to stop you, even if it's not Sony enforcing it.
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Indeed. Sony has the patent for it:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-03-sony-patents-tech-to-block-use-of-second-hand-games

The second hand game debate is going to be a game of chicken. Who comes out first and openly declares one way or the other.

If Sony come out at E3 and confirm they will allow used games, Microsoft will have no choice but to follow, no matter what patents they have or technology available in the Xbox one.
 
Fr0dders said:
Indeed. Sony has the patent for it:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-01-03-sony-patents-tech-to-block-use-of-second-hand-games

The second hand game debate is going to be a game of chicken. Who comes out first and openly declares one way or the other.

If Sony come out at E3 and confirm they will allow used games, Microsoft will have no choice but to follow, no matter what patents they have or technology available in the Xbox one.
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Or EU law apparently lol
 
TheVoice said:
Pre-ordering before there's been even the slightest indication of price. People are weird.
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My local Game has taken over 70 pre orders since the announcement, I don't know how many consoles shops generally get at launch, but I would guess not much more than that.
 
C.R.A.Z.Y said:
Indeed it is.
The Court of Justice of the European Union has ruled that publishers cannot stop you from reselling your downloaded games.

More specifically: "An author of software cannot oppose the resale of his 'used' licences allowing the use of his programs downloaded from the internet."

The Court said the exclusive right of distribution of a copy of a computer program covered by the license is "exhausted on its first sale".

The ruling means that gamers in European Union member states are free to sell their downloaded games, whether they're from Steam, Origin or another digital platform - no matter what End User License Agreement has been signed.

The ruling continues: "Therefore, even if the licence agreement prohibits a further transfer, the rightholder can no longer oppose the resale of that copy."

The ruling suggests that if you've bought a license for a game off your mate, you're within your rights to download it from the publisher's website. "Therefore the new acquirer of the user licence, such as a customer of UsedSoft, may, as a lawful acquirer of the corrected and updated copy of the computer program concerned, download that copy from the copyright holder's website," the Court said.

Source: http://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2012-07/cp120094en.pdf
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MS and Sony have both said categorically that Xbox one and PS4 will allow used games sales.
 
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