Newborn Baby Flushed Down The Toilet

MooMoo444 · 29 May 2013 at 16:07

Edward78 said:
How could any parent do that to their own baby!!!???

The point was that the culture in China is such that boys are more highly prized than girls.

Orionaut · 29 May 2013 at 17:13

AFK_Matrix said:
So do Chinese loos not have the u bend in them or something? If there like UK loos I really can't see how he slipped down the toilet pipe!!! And like someone else mentioned the umbilical cord is attached to the mother so how did it slip down the pipe? Did it tear it off the mother, if that's the case the mother would have a lot of bleeding I would have thought.

Sounds like a made up story to get her out of being prosecuted to me.

At the risk of being considered slightly pedantic, Neither end of the umbilical cord is connected to the Mother! The Placenta is actually part of the baby!

Marky · 29 May 2013 at 17:25

Orionaut said:
Given what a newborn baby has just been squeezed though, a 4" Drain should be no problem!

Mind, He must be a tough little SOB to have survived! I hope he makes a full recovery and finds a good home. he deserves it after all that!

Did you just compare a vagina to some plastic polypipe?

doodah · 29 May 2013 at 18:56

The mother, who has not been named, reportedly told police she unexpectedly gave birth on the toilet and that the baby slipped in to the sewer.

I take it she is using book of Mark Bridger for excuses? Reminds me of the stories you hear in hospitals where a man is hanging up something stark naked and 'accidentally' fell onto a [household object] bum first.

SB118 · 29 May 2013 at 20:20

AFK_Matrix said:
So do Chinese loos not have the u bend in them or something? If there like UK loos I really can't see how he slipped down the toilet pipe!!! And like someone else mentioned the umbilical cord is attached to the mother so how did it slip down the pipe? Did it tear it off the mother, if that's the case the mother would have a lot of bleeding I would have thought.

Sounds like a made up story to get her out of being prosecuted to me.

There is a pic further up of one of the "squat" type toilets, it's a glorified hole in the floor.

As for how the umbilical is connected, I take it you haven't seen any kids delivered?

Fuzz · 29 May 2013 at 20:26

Accident my ass!!

"Several reports have measured the breaking point of the human umbilical cord. Because of the differences among cords in Wharton's jelly, collagen content, and muscle layer structure there is a range of breakage points and sites.(87),(88) The average load required to break the majority of human umbilical cords is 10-14 lbs. "

SB118 · 29 May 2013 at 22:09

But I thought it was reported that the placenta was in the pipe too?

AFK_Matrix · 30 May 2013 at 08:31

SB118 said:
There is a pic further up of one of the "squat" type toilets, it's a glorified hole in the floor.

As for how the umbilical is connected, I take it you haven't seen any kids delivered?

Funnily enough I haven't seen a kid born, not my kind of film tbh. If its yours then each to their own I suppose. And I also haven't randomly walked into a delivery room and said can I have a look see mate

And fair enough if it was squat hole, would have thought she must have felt it was different from taking a dump though surely!! Or she had one very quick and painless delivery. Can you have a birth with very mild contractions as wouldn't she have felt these before hand? Or maybe she thought she had an upset stomach, hence going to the loo in the first place :eek:

SB118 · 30 May 2013 at 08:38

You're 31, how have you not been present at the miracle of birth?

AFK_Matrix · 30 May 2013 at 08:41

SB118 said:
You're 31, how have you not been present at the miracle of birth?

Seriously!!??? Lol what a question. Because unsurprisingly my friends haven't wanted me peering in on them having their child. God knows what your problem is but not everyone has had a child or been present to the birth of one at my age, what a twisted view you have lol.

SB118 · 30 May 2013 at 08:46

heh, once you've got your own kids you assume everybody else has too.

SexyGreyFox · 30 May 2013 at 08:51

AFK_Matrix said:
Can you have a birth with very mild contractions as wouldn't she have felt these before hand? Or maybe she thought she had an upset stomach, hence going to the loo in the first place

There are many documented cases including one in my own family, where the woman didn't even know they were pregnant and then started delivering.
In fact I mentioned one in this thread of a 15 year old girl at my school (back in 1973) who was doing cross country and an hour later she was caught putting her new born down the toilet (she was that fat anyway that nobody knew she was pregnant and she claimed she didn't know).
When my first child was born my wifes first words were 'Is that it, I thought I'd have a bit of pain?'.

And it is very strange that you've reached the age you are and you haven't at least seen a baby being born on a documentary and that's why you must have an 'Hollywood' impression of how pregnancy & labour is.

AFK_Matrix · 30 May 2013 at 09:17

I have seen a birth in movies etc and some documentaries but tbh I just see the cord being cut and thats it. I really am not interested in all the biology of it and by the looks of it I'm not the only one as I wasn't the first to mention the umbilical cord btw.

Anyway the main thing is the baby is safe and sound

Freefaller · 30 May 2013 at 09:17

Slightly off topic, but I prefer squat toilets - it's actually better for stool movement out of the body.

SB118 · 30 May 2013 at 10:07

AFK_Matrix said:
I have seen a birth in movies etc and some documentaries but tbh I just see the cord being cut and thats it. I really am not interested in all the biology of it and by the looks of it I'm not the only one as I wasn't the first to mention the umbilical cord btw.

Anyway the main thing is the baby is safe and sound

Nobody else mentioned it because the rest of us already know how it works

Hatter The Mad · 30 May 2013 at 10:15

An article I read recently made a good point: what can you expect from a country limited to so few children, which covets boys so much and treats girls poorly?

What can you expect from a country which treats a single mother like an alien (I read that apparently village committees have to approve healthcare registration for a baby of a single mother because there is no father).

It's not difficult to dehumanise certain types of people; look at Germany, South Africa, Bosnia... many other countries, too.

RichIbizaSport · 30 May 2013 at 10:18

SB118 said:
Nobody else mentioned it because the rest of us already know how it works

I have absolutely no idea how it works! My first thought was how the hell has it dropped out, she must have cut the cord. It looks like I need to do some googling when I get home!

AFK_Matrix · 30 May 2013 at 10:19

SB118 said:
Nobody else mentioned it because the rest of us already know how it works

I point you to this earlier post then:

Maximum Triceratops said:
I may have my wires crossed after having witnessed 2 births but arent they attached by an umbilical cord ?

I'll accept your apology now thanks

EDIT: It's also good to know we have some Obstetricians on the forum

SB118 · 30 May 2013 at 10:26

Ahh, but you were saying you couldn't understand how the baby got into the pipe if it was attached by its umbilical cord. But the umbilical cord isn't "tethered" to mum, it's connected to the placenta, so the mavity delivery of the baby without the cord being cut would just mean the placenta is delivered at the same time.

Unless I misunderstood your early post and I've been answering a query that wasn't there in the first place

AFK_Matrix · 30 May 2013 at 10:31

No that was the question, but you stated that no one else had mentioned having the cord attached and I was showing you that no someone had said exactly that previously hence my comment.