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So, my sister is moving out to Aus at the end of this June and I wish to visit early next year. Now, I hate long flights just like the the next bloke, even 9 hours to Florida gets really tedious so I have set my sights on flying with a little more quality.

Business Class, to Cairns (maybe a stop off). Does anyone have advice, best places for cheap(er) tickets etc etc.... Hoping someone has done the same and can give valuable advice !!

Thanks all :D
 
If you fly with Etihad, are white in skin tone and wear a suit, they will likely upgrade you if the business section isn't full, as far as their halfway stopover. I am not being racist, but their upgrade policy is, beneficially so.
You've two choices on the jounrey, London - Far East Singapore(hong kong/quala lumpar/thialand) - Cairns or
the alternative route
London - Middle East - Cairns
One splits is 13 hrs and 6, the other is a more even 8 - 9 split. Depends what you fancy, which stopover airport you want, and what airline you are willing to tolerate.
I have always found the Singapore Airlines service great and their airport is excellent for stopovers if you have to waste some hours.
 
Unless you are simply not sure what to do with all your pots of money, it's very hard to justify flying Business to oz unless:

a) Your employer is paying
b) You are upgrading via Airmiles or something

It's going cost you quite literally thousands of pounds for one ticket. Economy will be 3 figures. It's not THAT bad to Australia either as the airlines flying the Asian routes are MUCH better than those you will find going to Florida.

Economy with somebody like Emirates, Etihad, Malaysia Airlines or Singapore Airlines will be absolutely fine.

Cairns is also not serviced nearly as well by international airlines - consider Brisbane instead. It's then fun to drive up to Cairns, or just get an internal flight with somebody like Virgin Blue.
 
4of us are going in November and we payed approx £5000 for 4 returns, economy then booked extra legroom seats at £125 (£1000 total).

Couldn't bear going that far with no leg room and couldn't justify premium/business class prices.

This is with Qantas on a A380 too which is a bonus.

Regarding extra legroom, do some homework (seat guru).
Not all seats are the same and some will have bulkheads in front of you effectively giving you less legroom :eek:

Jb
 
Leg space is fine unless you are an absolute giant. Glad I didn't pay for leg room, as you have plenty anyway. That was with Thai, the others who flew out on a380s (iirc Quantas) had an even better time.

If I did it again I would spend a day or two somewhere to split it up and I wouldn't spend 10 or so hours in an airport to save £150.
Long haul to places like America don't bother me, but the flights to Australia did, especially with the wait.
 
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If you fly with Etihad, are white in skin tone and wear a suit, they will likely upgrade you if the business section isn't full, as far as their halfway stopover. I am not being racist, but their upgrade policy is, beneficially so.
You've two choices on the jounrey, London - Far East Singapore(hong kong/quala lumpar/thialand) - Cairns or
the alternative route
London - Middle East - Cairns
One splits is 13 hrs and 6, the other is a more even 8 - 9 split. Depends what you fancy, which stopover airport you want, and what airline you are willing to tolerate.
I have always found the Singapore Airlines service great and their airport is excellent for stopovers if you have to waste some hours.

got to admit, wearing a suit in the right places makes all the difference.
 
I don't like long hauls but like Fox don't like the price of non-economy. I go to Cairns a lot well just north of their and I tend to do: Birmingham -> Dubai (an hr to pootle around chuck water on face and stretch legs) then Dubai -> Singapore (2 hrs here) and then onto Oz. That's with Emirates.

Yes it takes more time but trust me not flying for longer than 10 hrs makes a difference as does being able to stretch your legs and freshen up etc. I do that and sleep all the way and I am ready to work when I land after a couple of hours kip and a quick shower. If I fly the more conventional routes I get jetlagged.
 
What sort of prices should I be paying to go to Oz next May...? I know a friend got his return ticket for £700 last christmas but I can't find a return for much less than £1k at the moment...
 
Thanks fore the insight everyone ! I will certainly be using the 'Suit' trick...its worth a shot :) I will take a gander at the seating arrangements but ultimately I want to be in a more sedate, less crowded with the chance of brats being sat behind you sorta scenario :/
 
Can't remember which plane it was, but I found the first leg on the way out the best, I got near the back of the plane where the cabin narrowed and there were less seats, also got the window seat, there was a large triangle of space between the seats and ten fuselage. So much extra space it was insane. Mean enough room for the blankets, cushion, gadgets and my left leg.
So worth looking at.
 
Thanks fore the insight everyone ! I will certainly be using the 'Suit' trick...its worth a shot :) I will take a gander at the seating arrangements but ultimately I want to be in a more sedate, less crowded with the chance of brats being sat behind you sorta scenario :/

It's not exactly a bucket and spade route. I flew with Malaysia Airlines and there were no brats. Infact to be honest I guess I've been lucky, I can't remember having brats on any of the flights I've taken over the last 5 years or so. That sort of thing usually happens on flights to Florida, Spain etc.
 
If you fly with Etihad, are white in skin tone and wear a suit, they will likely upgrade you if the business section isn't full, as far as their halfway stopover.
You might have experienced it on your particular flight, but that's categorically not a policy (published or otherwise) of Etihad.

Some general points:

1. Airlines will not upgrade you for free, unless the flight is full or there is some other problem/issue. That's the most basic precondition - there has to be more people booked than seats in the class you're booked in.

2. If they have overbooked in Economy for example, they will upgrade some people to Business in order to fit everyone on the plane since the alternative is to leave the excess behind (which would be highly undesirable).

3. Broadly speaking, whether you wear a suit or not is not the deciding factor. The airlines will give priority to their own frequent flyers (Gold, Silver, etc) for any free upgrades, as long as they're generally presentable. Being in a suit will not trump having a frequent flyer status.

4. However, check-in agents also sometimes need to select someone outside of the pool of frequent flyers. That's the bit where it helps to be (i) presentable (although I still don't think suits are essential), and (ii) exceedingly nice to the check-in agent.

5. Save the "I've hurt my leg" "I'm claustrophobic" etc stories - they've heard it all and then some, and it will generally ruin your chances unless it's very apparent (i.e. you really are 6'7 tall, or in a cast, and even then it's not a guarantee)

6. Don't walk up to the counter with any expectation of an upgrade - it's the best way to set yourself up to disappointment. Even the most frequent flyers are never guaranteed free upgrades, let alone those without any frequent flyer status. If you get one, great, but if you don't, you're still getting what you paid for.

7. Some airlines (BA for one, and a few others) do specially priced upgrades on their website or at check-in (for example, an extra £180 to go Premium Economy) which are substantially cheaper than purchasing the ticket outright.

Bulkhead seats are the ones which give you more legroom not less...
It depends on what sort of legroom you're talking about. There's more space around the knees because the seat in front is not there, but often you can't stretch out fully on a bulkhead seat whereas you can usually put your feet/lower leg underneath the row in front and stretch your legs fully.

The emergency exit seats are the ones where you get the full benefit of the extra legroom, but many airlines now charge you extra to sit on these. Very much worth it on a journey to Oz.
 
My ex-neighbour flys to Perth 3 or 4 times a year and always goes business class.

Sometimes gets upgraded to first but I cant think who she flies with.

She swears she'll never travel economy again on such a flight.
 
My ex-neighbour flys to Perth 3 or 4 times a year and always goes business class.

Sometimes gets upgraded to first but I cant think who she flies with.

She swears she'll never travel economy again on such a flight.

Does she pay or does the business pay? I flew business a couple of times to Japan last year, fantastic experience but not something I would personally have paid £5k each time for.
 
Does she pay or does the business pay? I flew business a couple of times to Japan last year, fantastic experience but not something I would personally have paid £5k each time for.

She pays herself because she is retired now, but I'm pretty sure its not quite that much. Maybe 2-3 thousand £ per trip.
 
Why not take a cruise ship instead? You would have some time to get fit, work on your tan, read guide books, etc.
 
Check West-east travel site, I use them to search flights to Thailand & HK. Consistently has the cheapest flights, across a variety of airlines and also shows business/premium economy. Managed to get Gatwick - Bangkok (stopping at Abu Dhabi for 2 hours) with Etihad, premium economy for £380 return. Quite often see flights to HK for around £300 and Oz for £500. Obviously it may be worth paying more for a better airline (Singapore the best!)
Link: www.westeasttravel.com/
Wow - Heathrow - Bangkok return for under £100 (plus taxes)!:o Looks like I may "pop over" for a couple of weeks and catch up with some mates... That's incredible.
 
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