Tongue-sewn diet patch makes eating painful
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Unfortunately self control isn't simple for some and while calories spent vs calories eaten may sound simple as well, it just isn't. Metabolism, health (physical and psychological) and lifestyle all play a part in making it difficult.
It's also fat people need to lose, not weight and losing that fat without muscle as well.
I feel as though many here haven't been in an overweight/obese situation and don't actually understand the difficulties for some.
Regardless of which, there are much better ways than the "solution" in the OP, that's just terrible.
It's also fat people need to lose, not weight and losing that fat without muscle as well.
I feel as though many here haven't been in an overweight/obese situation and don't actually understand the difficulties for some.
Regardless of which, there are much better ways than the "solution" in the OP, that's just terrible.
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Sounds just as silly as the gastric band... true if it's medically required for the person to stay alive I don't have a problem with the Gastric band but if someone gets it done not because they need it but just want it then it's as stupid an idea as this tongue patch.
Sounds like fat person talk to me, weight loss is easy, people are just too lazy and unwilling to make the effort required and why they're fat in the first place. The worst ones blame it on everything else including fluid retention, genetics, big boned, thyroid etc
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Exactly this. It's ridiculous.
Precisely.
You have to have the strength of mind to succeed. That's what it's about. Weight loss is not a physical challenge but a mental one.
Some people just like to eat whatever they like and don't care about the consequences.
No different than people that do extreme sports and don't care about the consequences.
I love the natural assumption everyone makes that ALL PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE FAT!! Some people just don't give a **** what their body looks like.
No different than people that do extreme sports and don't care about the consequences.
I love the natural assumption everyone makes that ALL PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE FAT!! Some people just don't give a **** what their body looks like.
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Not really; it's "bigger picture" talk.
You do indeed get the losers lying around becrying their big bones and faulty thyroids, but what he's trying to say is that it isn't as easy as simply telling someone the "wisdom" of mathematics that is "calories in < calories out".
There are many, many sociological and behavioural factors behind why people end up trapped in a fat spiral and breaking that is a mammoth battle compared to the relatively simple dietary side of things. That's all -- no excuses being made, just home truths for quite a few people out there.
If it was so easy to manage your weight we wouldn't have the much-publicised epidemic on our hands. Repeating the old calories mantra is just covering your eyes to much of the problem and going "Bla bla bla, I'm not listening to youuuuuuu."
I'm not.
It's the stupidity I find more tiresome.
People who don't know anything about the science behind differing metabolic rates, propensities for addiction or a myriad of different causes of over-eating or poor diet selection.
Even if the assumption "all you need to do is eat less" type rhetoric wasn't laughably simplistic, it still ignores the potential causes as to WHY somebody may be unable to "just do it" - the underline mental processes which can lead to obesity.
Only an idiot would attempt to condense a complicated field into a sound-bite.
Exactly my point.
It's more complicated.
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Yes.
Because every single person in the world has the exact same genetic propensity for addiction.
Im sorry but no, its not that simple. The type of calorie is extremely important. Macronutrient intake is extremely important.
You can lose weight by being in a calorie deficit but you will be incredibly unhealthy, and possibly die if you make a bad choice as to types of calorie.
Resorting to this, like a gastric band, is an extreme choice which I would hope is only taken by those in extreme circumstances.
I personally find it scary that this option exists, if only due to the pain and discomfort that would arise.
If the alternative is death, and the individual has difficulty in applying other weight loss methods, then why not use this?
I personally find it scary that this option exists, if only due to the pain and discomfort that would arise.
If the alternative is death, and the individual has difficulty in applying other weight loss methods, then why not use this?
Lysander the clueless.
No it is not that easy at all and it isn't just lower calorie in than expendature, well technically it is, in reality it is not, what you eat affects many hormonal and other responses. Eating the right things can balance blood insulin levels, foods have different levels of satiation.
There's a whole range of mental as well as addiction.
It doesn't help that the industry pushes bad practices and goverment guidlines are utterly clueless.
Resorting to this unfortunately I expect is due to bad advise and recomended diets that keep fail.
And just changing diet won't help either, you have to snap out of the behaviur as well. Be it depression, bordem or what ever.
It has to be a lifestyle change in more ways that just the food.
Then thin does not mean healthy. Once you strip away the statistical data, unhealthy is unhealthy with obese only playing a small part. It's just taht when looked at as a whole 95% of obese people might be unhealthy, where only 20% of normal weight people are unhealthy. So just being thin is no guarentee you are not at a much higher risk of what is considered to be typical obesity issues. So many thin diabetics, many I expect thought they were fine as they weren't obese.
No it is not that easy at all and it isn't just lower calorie in than expendature, well technically it is, in reality it is not, what you eat affects many hormonal and other responses. Eating the right things can balance blood insulin levels, foods have different levels of satiation.
There's a whole range of mental as well as addiction.
It doesn't help that the industry pushes bad practices and goverment guidlines are utterly clueless.
Resorting to this unfortunately I expect is due to bad advise and recomended diets that keep fail.
And just changing diet won't help either, you have to snap out of the behaviur as well. Be it depression, bordem or what ever.
It has to be a lifestyle change in more ways that just the food.
Then thin does not mean healthy. Once you strip away the statistical data, unhealthy is unhealthy with obese only playing a small part. It's just taht when looked at as a whole 95% of obese people might be unhealthy, where only 20% of normal weight people are unhealthy. So just being thin is no guarentee you are not at a much higher risk of what is considered to be typical obesity issues. So many thin diabetics, many I expect thought they were fine as they weren't obese.
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Extreme cheeseburger eating?
You just discovered my dream sport
TBH i could not care, other than this post for 30 seconds. If someone wants to do this to themself and they think it works good for them, good for the doctor making money good for everyone's fake outrage and disgust for lack of will power.. I love that one cos it makes me laugh
Its by far the best bit of these types of thread