NSA has "back door" into Google, Apple, Facebook and others

Ironic as them and the UK criticise the Chinese for doing the very things they are now doing themselves. This really is 1984 type government control creeping in.
 
The NSA could effectively dig into any of our politicians lives and then blackmail them. For example:

Hi Gordon (Brown), we see that you had a secret gay love affair, tomorrow you will sell all of your countries gold reserves at rock bottom prices or it'll become headline news.

They have the power to subvert democratic governments anywhere, knowledge is power. Scary.

I don't believe for one second that any of our gravy train politicians would be willing to give up even a fraction of what this guy has done to do the right thing for the people they supposedly represent, half of them daren't even voice an opinion that's different to their party leader for fear of losing their cosy lifestyles.
 
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mmj_uk said:
The NSA could effectively dig into any of our politicians lives and then blackmail them. For example:

Hi Gordon (Brown), we see that you had a secret gay love affair, tomorrow you will sell all of your countries gold reserves at rock bottom prices or it'll become headline news.

They have the power to subvert democratic governments anywhere, knowledge is power. Scary.

I don't believe for one second that any of our gravy train politicians would be willing to give up even a fraction of what this guy has done to do the right thing for the people they supposedly represent, half of them daren't even voice an opinion that's different to their party leader for fear of losing their cosy lifestyles.
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Yep.

Waits for the sheltered folk to come in and say that's ridiculous and the world is all dandy and innocent. :D
 
I don't know what makes me more concerned, the fact that intelligence agencies are doing it or the fact the corporations are denying it.
 
I love how camoron has come out today and said "GCHQ have always operated within UK law" yeah I feel so reassured now :rolleyes:

The fact that so many politicians have said GCHQ have obeyed the laws means they clearly haven't and know it! I dont believe that for one second that the UK havent made use of this "prism" system to collect metadata on the population.
 
Did anyone seen something on the news last week about the Chinese hacking masses and the Yanks complaining how they fend off multiple attacks every day and it's costing them billions per year?

The snippet on the news went on to how the Americans are developing a new stealth fighter and the Chinese have managed to get hold of the plans for this and build their own variant.

The video showed a massive hall filled with absolutely hundreds of people on computers all dressed in a weird uniform including Mario-esque baseball caps. Not sure if this was just images from a massive educational establishment or something else but it was incredible.

Point being, the US has all this data they are "gathering" stored somewhere surely. Guessing it is well protected etc but from the news report these Chinese groups were a massive hassle to the US so you have to wonder what data exactly the US are gathering on citizens which could pottentially be obtained and used by countries posing a potential threat.

Massive area this, not liking it.
 
Who here actually thinks the government cares about "law"?

It's the government for goodness sake!

Most recent example; like those pedophile teachers who were allowed to teach again. But give someone a couple cautions for smoking cannabis, and never think of harming anyone let alone a child and they cant get a job that requires CRB checks. Makes perfect sense yeah.

lol law - its been created by bent people and can be bent itself.

Stop thinking everything is hunky dory because it's lawful.
 
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Moses said:
So why wasn't Abu Qatada instantly booted out of the country, at the start of the drawn out legal process you've probably seen in the press?



And how's that an example of the government ignoring the law?
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Because it was highly publicised and would upset his "followers" they had to be legal because it was so well publicised. He ended up leaving himself anyway, or at least that's what was publicised.

The government cant just change the laws to do something, that would just be too obvious don't you see.

Its not supposed to be an example of the government breaking the law. It's meant to be an example that laws aren't everything.


Moses said:
Also, what's actually wrong with paedophile teachers? Isn't the important thing to stop dangerous sex offenders out of teaching, rather than paedophiles per se... paedophiles who don't act on urges aren't doing anything detrimental to anyone.
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Hahahahah. WHAT?

One of them undressed infront of kids and one of them invited a student to a country lane for a snog! Don't remember what the other dozen did, but they probably did some equally heinous things as well.

The sad thing is they had to turn to the media to force/outcast these disgusting people out.
 
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asim18 said:
Most recent example; like those pedophile teachers who were allowed to teach again.
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No, they were not banned from teaching. Not the same thing at all, because..

But give someone a couple cautions for smoking cannabis, and never think of harming anyone let alone a child and they cant get a job that requires CRB checks
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And guess what will happen to the pedophile when he applies - he'll fail the CRB check too and therefore not get the job. He won't work with children again.

But don't let the facts cloud your conspiracy rant.
 
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