Win 7 or Win 8??

Of those who are stating that they prefer Windows 8, I wonder what proportion are using thier laptop/PC's purely as a multimedia, internet, gaming device and which of you actually also use your W8 computers for working on.

Having spent 1 hour or so dicking around with W8 (pre-installed on new laptop), I cant say I am liking what I see so far. Aside from the inconvenience of having to relearn all the time tested OS navigation routes that have become like instinct, W8 feels to me like a big Microsoft spider, moving ever more aggressively towards trying to get everyone entangled in its web. I may be wrong, but I bet for example small time programmers will have an increasingly hard time getting W8 to properly incorporate thier software than compared with previous versions.


One hour is not enough time,took me about two weeks to fully know Win8 and get use to it so that it was natural,I do have it on my laptop and PC desktop.
 
One hour is not enough time,took me about two weeks to fully know Win8 and get use to it so that it was natural,I do have it on my laptop and PC desktop.

Yes.

I know that we all have a natural aversion to things that are different from what we already know. For this reason, I intend to stick with W8 for a while. I hope I dont regret it. Will be a lot of extra work reverting to W7.
 
Yes.

I know that we all have a natural aversion to things that are different from what we already know. For this reason, I intend to stick with W8 for a while. I hope I dont regret it. Will be a lot of extra work reverting to W7.

Look at the bright side you find it a lot easier to go from 8 to 8.1 later this year ;) .
 
Of those who are stating that they prefer Windows 8, I wonder what proportion are using thier laptop/PC's purely as a multimedia, internet, gaming device and which of you actually also use your W8 computers for working on.

I have it on a ThinkPad + monitor at work where it does pretty much everything.

For home/work it's running the PC which is mainly an editing box with a calibrated monitor to process my photos and also do general office tasks.

I would say I spend around 90% of my time on the desktop.
 
Look at the bright side you find it a lot easier to go from 8 to 8.1 later this year ;) .

Naw...

I couldnt bare it. I have went against my promise to myself that i would give it a fair chance and have wiped it and put Windows 7 over it in its place. I had to delete quite a few of the factory default partitions in order to do this, so I hope I have not affected the functionality of the 3xSSD 'Super Raid' harddrives. It wasn't just the quite frankly retarded pointless Metro UI and all the built in crap that wanted to interfere with the functioning of my computer, but also the sheer amount of system freezes and hangs that I experienced in my short time with W8. If that was how it was on a brand new computer, I would hate to see it once a few errors and registry corruptions had settled in. It's gone!

Problem now is that not all the drivers that came bundled with the laptop want to work with Windows 7.

I love computers man. Just think of all the spare time I would have if it weren't for constantly burning hours away trying to resolve PC headaches.

EDIT: Having done a bit of a google search on W8, it seems that it is more universally hated than Vista was at the time and a much greater commercial disaster for Microsoft. Despite the fact that all new prebuilt PCs come with W8 pre installed, W8 currently sits as as only the 4th most used PC operating system, with only about 4% of PCs using it. Then it is Vista with 4.5%, then XP with about 37%, and the most popular is Windows 7 with around 47% usage. Knowing this, makes me feel a lot better about wiping it for good from my laptop. Clearly computing forums are populated with ultra enthiusiasts that will always want the next newest thing no matter what, hence the impression on this thread and many others like it that Windows 8 is actually great when you get used it. I think the real figures suggest that Windows 8 is anything but great, but as an article I read suggests, is rather more Microsoft's 'New Coke' moment. I would suggest that like Vista, although W8 might have all its many rough edges smoothed out, W8 will never really gain mainstream acceptance, forcing Microsoft to rethink their hand for W9.
 
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EDIT: Having done a bit of a google search on W8, it seems that it is more universally hated than Vista was at the time and a much greater commercial disaster for Microsoft. Despite the fact that all new prebuilt PCs come with W8 pre installed, W8 currently sits as as only the 4th most used PC operating system, with only about 4% of PCs using it. Then it is Vista with 4.5%, then XP with about 37%, and the most popular is Windows 7 with around 47% usage. Knowing this, makes me feel a lot better about wiping it for good from my laptop. Clearly computing forums are populated with ultra enthiusiasts that will always want the next newest thing no matter what, hence the impression on this thread and many others like it that Windows 8 is actually great when you get used it. I think the real figures suggest that Windows 8 is anything but great, but as an article I read suggests, is rather more Microsoft's 'New Coke' moment. I would suggest that like Vista, although W8 might have all its many rough edges smoothed out, W8 will never really gain mainstream acceptance, forcing Microsoft to rethink their hand for W9.

It depends, if they treat win8 as a clean break they are free to simply improve on win8 'design principles' and the market will have to adopt. Although I would rather they re-incorporate some of the polish of win7 (start index/aero) and at least offer as an personalisation option I don't see a significant rethink happening.
 
You're only connecting the dots you want to connect. Windows 8 is far from universally hated. The only opinion that matters is your own.
 
Am I the only person who doesn't find Windows 8 any faster in actual usage than Windows 7?

Or do I need an old, slower PC to see the difference?
 
You're only connecting the dots you want to connect. Windows 8 is far from universally hated. The only opinion that matters is your own.

Yes, very philosophical of you I am sure.

Of course, Microsoft doesn't care about my opinion, but they might care about this:

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-microsofts-new-coke-moment-7000014779/

No, not the opinion of the journalist, but the dismal market share and take up of Windows 8, despite the fact that it is being forced upon any consumer who buys a new PC/laptop. Microsoft will do whatever they feel gives them the maximum market advantage, both in the present, and moving into the future. Also there is no guarantee that Microsoft will act in their own best interests either. As can be seen with the pre release hate of Xbox One, M$ are increasingly scoring howling own goals in thier quest for market domination. So who knows? But this customer has spoken and he will never use Windows 8 again despite it coming bundled free with his laptop. If Microsoft persist with thier deluded notion that desktop/laptop computers should be used just the same as smartphones and tablets, then it would take a Windows 9 having DX12 as an exclusive, to make me shift over, and even then it would have to be a dual boot.
 
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I point out the flaw in your reasoning and respect the fact you've tried it and formed your own opinion, and all I get back is a sarcastic retort and a link to an article written by one of the biggest Microsoft trolls on the internet. Fine.
 
I point out the flaw in your reasoning and respect the fact you've tried it and formed your own opinion, and all I get back is a sarcastic retort and a link to an article written by one of the biggest Microsoft trolls on the internet. Fine.

Providing that 'the troll' isn't just making those figures up, you are 'pointing out a flaw' in the reasoning of the vast majority of people. Which really is just you stating your own biased minority opinion.
 
Yes, very philosophical of you I am sure.

Of course, Microsoft doesn't care about my opinion, but they might care about this:

http://www.zdnet.com/windows-8-microsofts-new-coke-moment-7000014779/

No, not the opinion of the journalist, but the dismal market share and take up of Windows 8, despite the fact that it is being forced upon any consumer who buys a new PC/laptop. Microsoft will do whatever they feel gives them the maximum market advantage, both in the present, and moving into the future. Also there is no guarantee that Microsoft will act in their own best interests either. As can be seen with the pre release hate of Xbox One, M$ are increasingly scoring howling own goals in thier quest for market domination. So who knows? But this customer has spoken and he will never use Windows 8 again despite it coming bundled free with his laptop. If Microsoft persist with thier deluded notion that desktop/laptop computers should be used just the same as smartphones and tablets, then it would take a Windows 9 having DX12 as an exclusive, to make me shift over, and even then it would have to be a dual boot.

I never go by reviews or what others write .
I was one of the people that liked Vista and we all know how much FUD that got,Win8 got some FUD too .

I can also respect your choice and decision,however don't read into what others write on the net etc,nothing like trying an OS for a period of time yourself and forming your own judgement.
Btw I also use Linux a lot too and find that great ,in some ways a lot better then ANY Windows OS.

I was also more a DOS fan decades ago then Windows and we all know what happened to DOS.
As always never read too much into anything,nothing beats experience in using an OS yourself.
 
As always never read too much into anything,nothing beats experience in using an OS yourself.

I did experience it myself, and whilst I could see that there were good things about it, I quickly decided that it wasn't for me. Apart from all the bugs and system freezes, i really dont see why I should have to relearn everything I already know, for no good reason other than Microsoft are trying to force everyone onto their new business model.

Funny thing is, I dont know anyone in real life who likes it, the tech media generally slate it, yet tech internet forum posters all proclaim that they love it.
 
I did experience it myself, and whilst I could see that there were good things about it, I quickly decided that it wasn't for me. Apart from all the bugs and system freezes, i really dont see why I should have to relearn everything I already know, for no good reason other than Microsoft are trying to force everyone onto their new business model.

Funny thing is, I dont know anyone in real life who likes it, the tech media generally slate it, yet tech internet forum posters all proclaim that they love it.

I think its pretty good(no OS is perfect even my Linux distros).
I never get to concerned in REAL life,it's only an OS end of the day,I also did say you should have tried it longer( one hour or day is not enough time) but respect your opinion ;) .
 
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I did experience it myself, and whilst I could see that there were good things about it, I quickly decided that it wasn't for me. Apart from all the bugs and system freezes, i really dont see why I should have to relearn everything I already know, for no good reason other than Microsoft are trying to force everyone onto their new business model.

Funny thing is, I dont know anyone in real life who likes it, the tech media generally slate it, yet tech internet forum posters all proclaim that they love it.

You will find the opinion you look for really, for every person like you there is someone like me who know lots of people who like it. I've used it from day one and it's been faster and every bit as stable as win 7, and I,ve never felt forced into anything, I use my desktop the same as I did before, but with the addition of some decent metro apps when I choose to use them. There are many reasons for the slow uptake of win8 but the dislike many have for it is probably less than you think, win 7 itself is probably the biggest reason. Speaking With some business software vendors they are waiting for 8.1 before investing significantly in adapting their products for win 8, this is fairly typical and not a lot different to what happened with win 7, but the timescales and demand are different, as win xp to 7' there was a need to move to a new OS, just now there is no great need to change, but it will begin to gain momentum.
 
You will find the opinion you look for really, for every person like you there is someone like me who know lots of people who like it. I've used it from day one and it's been faster and every bit as stable as win 7, and I,ve never felt forced into anything, I use my desktop the same as I did before, but with the addition of some decent metro apps when I choose to use them. There are many reasons for the slow uptake of win8 but the dislike many have for it is probably less than you think, win 7 itself is probably the biggest reason. Speaking With some business software vendors they are waiting for 8.1 before investing significantly in adapting their products for win 8, this is fairly typical and not a lot different to what happened with win 7, but the timescales and demand are different, as win xp to 7' there was a need to move to a new OS, just now there is no great need to change, but it will begin to gain momentum.

I understand what you are saying, but the part of your speech I have highlighted in bold, is something that does just not correspond to my own personal experience with it. I notice that there is someone else who was advised by OcUK members to get Windows 8, who is also getting big headaches from it and the last I read, Is RMA-ing the whole machine because of it.

Also. I don't seem to remember all the hate and countless articles going around about Windows 7, that stated it was a nasty horrible OS. That is because it was very postively received right from the start and nobody had any reason to dis it (although it is far from perfect also). No matter what you say, seems to be the common perception around that Windows 8 'isn't for everyone', and that isn't counting the large volume of negativity towards it that is also out there that claims it to be in the all time sin-bin of operating systems.

Lets face it, Microsoft have previous history of bu66ering things up with some of their OS releases....Windows ME, Vista, and now dare I say, Windows 8?
 
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I understand what you are saying, but the part of your speech I have highlighted in bold, is something that does just not correspond to my own personal experience with it. I notice that there is someone else who was advised by OcUK members to get Windows 8, who is also getting big headaches from it and the last I read, Is RMA-ing the whole machine because of it.

Also. I don't seem to remember all the hate and countless articles going around about Windows 7, that stated it was a nasty horrible OS. That is because it was very postively received right from the start and nobody had any reason to dis it (although it is far from perfect also). No matter what you say, seems to be the common perception around that Windows 8 'isn't for everyone', and that isn't counting the large volume of negativity towards it that is also out there that claims it to be in the all time sin-bin of operating systems.

Lets face it, Microsoft have previous history of bu66ering things up with some of their OS releases....Windows ME, Vista, and now dare I say, Windows 8?

I wouldn't try and pretend its for everyone, it's a big change, and definitely a change too far for some hence the return of the start button, but I do feel much of the negative is mis targeted. It remains to be seen what the cause of tummy's issues are so its not worth discussing tbh it was far from a comprehensive diagnosis, having custom built dozens of win 8 pc's, and it server equiv 2012 I've yet to have a single issue. I do think it's a flawed OS but not for the reasons most generally do as a lot of the issues such as feeling forced into using a touch screen OS are quite addressable with a little time invested in setting up the machine for your preferred input method, something you didn't need to worry about on previous windows hence it catching out many on win 8.
 
I understand what you are saying, but the part of your speech I have highlighted in bold, is something that does just not correspond to my own personal experience with it. I notice that there is someone else who was advised by OcUK members to get Windows 8, who is also getting big headaches from it and the last I read, Is RMA-ing the whole machine because of it.

Also. I don't seem to remember all the hate and countless articles going around about Windows 7, that stated it was a nasty horrible OS. That is because it was very postively received right from the start and nobody had any reason to dis it (although it is far from perfect also). No matter what you say, seems to be the common perception around that Windows 8 'isn't for everyone', and that isn't counting the large volume of negativity towards it that is also out there that claims it to be in the all time sin-bin of operating systems.

Lets face it, Microsoft have previous history of bu66ering things up with some of their OS releases....Windows ME, Vista, and now dare I say, Windows 8?

So much wrong with this statement where do I start?... Ok no OS is perfect infact I think Linux Mint runs circles around Win7 but even that is not perfect,as to Vista I thought it was a good OS and stand by that statement,you are right some people don't like some Windows operating systems including Linux but that also includes Win7 so you can't exclude any OS.

As to Win8 I actually used the beta version and then used the release version for FULL two weeks before I made my judgement I like it,that gave me time to get use to it and learn the in and outs.

Sure you can dislike Win8 or any OS nothing wrong in that but do TRY it for at LEAST TWO full two weeks IMHO before making a judgement eitherway.
I could also argue some users like it with a Start button like classic etc..
I'm also tried of hearing this history FUD crap ie ME,Vista,Win8 crap,thats another FUD that comes up on the net,I actually know somebody that likes WinME lol (no not me ,only two I hate were Win3.11 and ME).

Always seems like some of those that don't like an OS want to spoil it for those that do(ie net FUD),try and respect those that do just I like I can except somebody that does not provided they have fully tested and tried the OS for a decent period of time.
I never see these sort of statements in Linux ,lol wonder why.
 
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I I notice that there is someone else who was advised by OcUK members to get Windows 8, who is also getting big headaches from it and the last I read, Is RMA-ing the whole machine because of it.

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Rolf, you trying to blame broken RAM on win8

There's always hate when you have a big change, there was actual petition against XP before sp1, went on to be one of the best OS ever.
Humans don't like change, even if the change is good. Give it a couple of years and the complaints will be virtually non existent.
 
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