NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 launches June 25

[RetrogamerX]

I am glad you brought this it up.

Before I watercooled the cards I made a point of picking this particular case so that the cards were at the top of the case with good air flow around them to help in avoiding any possibility of them throttling.

Now they are on water it does not really matter where in the case they are.

Oh...that makes sense

 

[Kaapstad]

Oh...that makes sense

Now the cards are on water people don't have to try and read the upside down logos either.

 

[Harlequin]

Then keep it cool . I would get throttling if I didn't have a fan profile set, so to stop throttling, I set a 1:1 fan profile and my temps never hit 70c and this is with air cooling.

You do come out with some random things....

huh? if you look at various reviews that test the boost , they say similar , that it throttles back when it gets warm and doesn't boost as high... the hardware cannucks link its just 1 of quite a number , anand found the same

 

[Kaapstad]

huh? if you look at various reviews that test the boost , they say similar , that it throttles back when it gets warm and doesn't boost as high... the hardware cannucks link its just 1 of quite a number , anand found the same

Keep them cool and they do not throttle.

The biggest problem with throttling is the CPU, once the cards start increasing the poor CPU just can't cope.

 

[Gregster]

huh? if you look at various reviews that test the boost , they say similar , that it throttles back when it gets warm and doesn't boost as high... the hardware cannucks link its just 1 of quite a number , anand found the same

What do you mean huh?

I explained that the cards with a 1:1 fan profile never go over 70c The cards are designed to downclock when the temps get to 80c and hence the throttling. You are making it out that it is a fault but it clearly is designed this way. If I leave my fan profile off, my cards would also downclock.

 

[Harlequin]

that's a custom fan profile - if you look at anandtech or hardware canucks they show the throttling which by default shouldn't require any elaborate cooling or `customizing` of software... it should work as advertise out of the box , and yet out of the box will throttle in a sealed case without customising.

 

[Gregster]

that's a custom fan profile - if you look at anandtech or hardware canucks they show the throttling which by default shouldn't require any elaborate cooling or `customizing` of software... it should work as advertise out of the box , and yet out of the box will throttle in a sealed case without customising.

Well I would like to think that anyone who paid this kind of money for a Titan can afford water cooling or at least have the sense to understand how the cards work.

Thanks for your input though.

 

[Rusty0611]

that's a custom fan profile - if you look at anandtech or hardware canucks they show the throttling which by default shouldn't require any elaborate cooling or `customizing` of software... it should work as advertise out of the box , and yet out of the box will throttle in a sealed case without customising.

You do realise that reference 680s/670s with a default fan profile go above 70c and throttle by 15 MHz as well right?

 

[jimfowler_82]

Surely anyone buying a Titan is an enthusiast and understands how to use fan profiling software?

 

[Harlequin]

thanks for your replies

no , not everyone who buys these cards are `enthusiasts` or rather not all of them post on forums; there will be a good percentage of people who purchase these cards (6xx ,7xx series) who buy them because they`ve read a review and want one and gone to a price comparison site.

so whilst water blocks might be crammed on or custom profiles will be added , there will be a good percentage of buyers who don't do either.

what they expect is a product to function properly out of the box (as advertised) without modifications - custom anything is a modification

 

[neuk]

Would this be a good buy if it is sold at 230 euro?

 

[Gregster]

thanks for your replies

no , not everyone who buys these cards are `enthusiasts` or rather not all of them post on forums; there will be a good percentage of people who purchase these cards (6xx ,7xx series) who buy them because they`ve read a review and want one and gone to a price comparison site.

so whilst water blocks might be crammed on or custom profiles will be added , there will be a good percentage of buyers who don't do either.

what they expect is a product to function properly out of the box (as advertised) without modifications - custom anything is a modification

Those people you mention probably wouldn't be running monitoring software, so how would they know? If they are running monitoring software, they would see the card is getting hot and would look into it?

Seriously, you are arguing for the sake of getting your point across and arguing with people who use/have used these cards and know what they are talking about. Any card that gets hot will need a more aggressive fan profile and better it downclocks rather than cook if they don't?

How many 6 series cards have you played with?

 

[Kaapstad]

thanks for your replies

no , not everyone who buys these cards are `enthusiasts` or rather not all of them post on forums; there will be a good percentage of people who purchase these cards (6xx ,7xx series) who buy them because they`ve read a review and want one and gone to a price comparison site.

so whilst water blocks might be crammed on or custom profiles will be added , there will be a good percentage of buyers who don't do either.

This graphics card forum at it's best takes some beating. We have a lot of people who do a lot of testing. For example if you want to know how a HD 7950 runs with a particular game, there is someone here who probably has done loads of testing with a HD 7950 and can produce far more data and graphs than any online review. Give it a try working with people who use whatever you are interested in rather than getting bogged down on points of order.

what they expect is a product to function properly out of the box (as advertised) without modifications - custom anything is a modification

The Titan actually does work perfectly out of the box when it comes to temps, the default setup concentrates on the card running as quiet as possible, not as fast as possible. This is the way people from NVidia have demonstrated the card, but then after this they shown how to change fan profiles and increase the volts to get the maximum out of the card. The Titan performs exactly as NVidia have advertised it. There is a really good in depth video of one of the top people from NVidia demonstrating this in a long interview, unfortunately I don't have the link.

 

[Gregster]

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 3DMark 11 Performance Unveiled

The GeForce GTX 760 was supposed to be a rebadge of the GeForce GTX 670 but it isn’t. From the latest GPU-z screenshot, we can see that NVIDIA made a few changes with the new GK104-225 A2 Kepler core. The notable change is that NVIDIA has cut down 2 SMX units off the Kepler core which amount to 1152 Cuda cores, 32 ROPs and 96 TMUs within the new graphics processing unit. Compared to both the GeForce GTX 660 Ti and the GTX 670, this would mean a massive hit to performance but at the same time NVIDIA brought a 2 GB GDDR5 memory running across a 256-bit interface compared to the 192-bit memory interface on the GeForce GTX 660 Ti.

NVIDIA has also pumped the memory clock at the reference 7 GHz speed for the GeForce 700 series (excluding GeForce 780). These are great numbers which bring the frequencies upto the mark of overclocked GeForce 600 series cards and we would be looking at even faster clocked custom models with the ability to overclock here. Now one thing to note is that the user who leaked the performance results is the same guy from Chiphell who yesterday gave us the GPU-z screenshot and he has revealed that the GTX 760 model he received for testing is a non-reference variant hence clocked at 1072 MHz for core and 1111 MHz for boost. The memory clock should remain the same for reference variants too. So its still not known what would the reference variants boast in terms of clock frequencies, performance could take a major hit if they end up below the 1 GHz mark.


Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...performance-revealed-3dmark-11/#ixzz2WVzipZZB

For cooling, it would be a miracle to see the card in its reference design since almost every manufacturer are using their custom coolers with the new GeForce GTX 760 GPU. Even so that each cooler looks distinctively similar to those used on GeForce GTX 770/670/660Ti. NVIDIA is also said to not release the GeForce GTX 760 under the TI branding. The specific reason was not detailed. The GeForce GTX 760 is said to launch within this week at a price of $299.

The performance of the GeForce GTX 760 is said to be 8830 Marks in 3DMark 11 Performance preset which is comparable to an overclocked GeForce GTX 660 Ti and just under the neck of a stock GeForce GTX 670. However, overclocked GeForce GTX 670 models would end up faster. Just for comparison we have the following numbers:


Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-...performance-revealed-3dmark-11/#ixzz2WVzpt5OB

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-overclocked-variant-performance-revealed-3dmark-11/

£228 if no gouging and just under a 670

 

[Rusty0611]

thanks for your replies

no , not everyone who buys these cards are `enthusiasts` or rather not all of them post on forums; there will be a good percentage of people who purchase these cards (6xx ,7xx series) who buy them because they`ve read a review and want one and gone to a price comparison site.

so whilst water blocks might be crammed on or custom profiles will be added , there will be a good percentage of buyers who don't do either.

what they expect is a product to function properly out of the box (as advertised) without modifications - custom anything is a modification

Quoted again:

You do realise that reference 680s/670s with a default fan profile go above 70c and throttle by 15 MHz as well right?

Basically, you're talking nonsense.

 

[jimfowler_82]

Looks like im getting a 670 then, will i be disappointed? Planning on playing BF4 extensively, considering a 770 but the ££ is putting me off a little, shame this 760 looks way too weak for the price point etc.

 

[Gregster]

Looks like im getting a 670 then, will i be disappointed? Planning on playing BF4 extensively, considering a 770 but the ££ is putting me off a little, shame this 760 looks way too weak for the price point etc.

I think they will release a 670 refresh but when is anyone guess Jim. Many guys here use a 670 and love them and play games @ 1080P very very well.

I am playing the Alpha version of BF4 and it isn't as demanding as I would have thought. It is far from finished but plays very well

 

[Kaapstad]

I think we may be reading NVidia's 7 series lineup wrong. I am starting to think that the GTX 770 has replaced both the GTX 680 and 670. The GTX 770 has the GTX 680s performance and a bit more at the old GTX 670s price point.

 

[Marine-RX179]

So stingy green laughing man thinks that offering GTX670 level performance (more or less equal to/slower than the 7950) at around £230 price point after more than 12 months is too "generous", and decide to further cut down the spec?

The GTX760 with this kinda of spec better be coming in at sub £200 +/- 10% like the GTX560Ti's back then

 

[bru]

So stingy green laughing man thinks that offering GTX670 level performance (more or less equal to/slower than the 7950) at around £230 price point after more than 12 months is too "generous", and decide to further cut down the spec?

The GTX760 with this kinda of spec better be coming in at sub £200 +/- 10% like the GTX560Ti's back then

Even though we all understand what you mean and I do agree with you, is it really any worse than the stingy red man STILL offering the same 7950 performance at around the £230 price point after 18 months.