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AMD Talks Graphic Industry’s Trends – Radeon HD 7970 Still The King of $299 Price Segment

As a gross generalisation people looking to buy ultra high end GPU solutions don't look at two things (a) power use (b) price.
 
andybird123 said:
Please show me how you can fit 3 or 4 7990's in a single PC :D
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Assuming you could connect them together, why would you want to? Unless things have changed a lot in the last year 3 gpu's is still seen as the sweet spot with a fourth adding very little relevant to the cost outlay. You may get the odd game or benchmark where it adds a bit for the most part its pointless and nothing but e-peen points.

There's few enough people out there going to buy 2 mid graphics cards, let alone 3-4 high end cards, or 3-4 LOL worthy cards like Titan. I get what you're saying obviously about 3 or 4 780's having more performance than 4 7970's or 2 7990's but the fact is so few people will have those kind of setups its a bit of a pointless argument really.
 
Gerard said:
Assuming you could connect them together, why would you want to? Unless things have changed a lot in the last year 3 gpu's is still seen as the sweet spot with a fourth adding very little relevant to the cost outlay. You may get the odd game or benchmark where it adds a bit for the most part its pointless and nothing but e-peen points.

There's few enough people out there going to buy 2 mid graphics cards, let alone 3-4 high end cards, or 3-4 LOL worthy cards like Titan. I get what you're saying obviously about 3 or 4 780's having more performance than 4 7970's or 2 7990's but the fact is so few people will have those kind of setups its a bit of a pointless argument really.
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I have, so in my case it is very much not a pointless argument - the target sector for a Titan is either people who want more than 2, or people who want the fastest card they can fit in a HTPC, which would also not be a 7990 as it'd be too long

following your line of thinking, the 7990 itself is pointless, as 2 7970's are both cheaper and faster (typically overclocking better than a 7990 will)
 
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I'm just happy the 7950 I invested in 7 months ago is still considered a top card well over a year after release.

New generations usually come and push them aside. I'm surprised the 7950/70 are still standing strong after a new line up being released from Nvidia.
 
Gerard said:
Yes it is, and it has been for a good few years now.
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You can't compare a high end single GPU to a dual card. It's a whole different experience with dual cards you are relying on SLI / Crossfire drivers and potentially more problems that come with it.

AMD can't just strap two 7970's together and call it day. They need a high end 'single' GPU to truly rival the 780 / Titan. The sooner the better..
 
Boomstick777 said:
You can't compare a high end single GPU to a dual card. It's a whole different experience with dual cards you are relying on SLI / Crossfire drivers and potentially more problems that come with it.

AMD can't just strap two 7970's together and call it day. They need a high end 'single' GPU to truly rival the 780 / Titan. The sooner the better..
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There is no experience change with 2x780s in SLI there are no driver issues with over 400 games in my steam. No runt frames and no crashes. Just buttery smooth wonderment. A couple of fixes for grid 2 came out yesterday too so my only game with lighting glitches is now perfect too.
 
bemaniac said:
There is no experience change with 2x780s in SLI there are no driver issues with over 400 games in my steam. No runt frames and no crashes. Just buttery smooth wonderment. A couple of fixes for grid 2 came out yesterday too so my only game with lighting glitches is now perfect too.
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I agree with you that SLI is currently better than Crossfire, but I think you've missed my point, multiple graphics cards rely heavily on driver support and optimization to get the most from the cards.

Whereas a single card will provide it's maximum performance at all times. Therefore you cannot compare a dual card to a single card of similar performance. The single card will always provide the better experience.
 
Boomstick777 said:
You can't compare a high end single GPU to a dual card. It's a whole different experience with dual cards you are relying on SLI / Crossfire drivers and potentially more problems that come with it.

AMD can't just strap two 7970's together and call it day. They need a high end 'single' GPU to truly rival the 780 / Titan. The sooner the better..
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You might want to tell that to every review site out there who thinks its a valid comparison, its still a single card regardless of how many gpu's are on it. Yes there can be issues with multi gpu's and drivers but its never stopped the cards selling, and because of the cap system issues for newer games are usually resolved pretty quick. And unless AMD's strategy on the gpu side of things has changed recently they stopped going for uber high end single gpu cards and instead left that to the dual gpu board, been that way since the 3870x2 following the 2900xt debacle. With my time running 3 gpu's the only games I had issues with were Rage, and battlefield 3, and both of those issues were sorted out pretty quickly.

andybird123 said:
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following your line of thinking, the 7990 itself is pointless, as 2 7970's are both cheaper and faster (typically overclocking better than a 7990 will)
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Not really, if someone wants to do quadfire or trifire and has limited space in their machine 2 7990's or a 7990 and a 7970 is the perfect solution. It'll also probably draw less power than having 3 or 4 individual cards. its also a solution that isn't available for nvidia cards as you can't link a 690 and a 680 for example together.
 
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andybird123 said:
so Titan is a pointless niche card, but a 7990 is a perfect product because of an equal and opposite niche case?
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Titan is a pointless card because it came out at a retarded price then the 780 came out within farting distance of the titans performance for a good chunk of change less. It literally was a bragging rights cards for a couple of months and that was really it. Had the titan had substantially more performance or the 780 less there would have been a point to it, comparing them side by side though there's only a handful of fps in it for titan in most cases for around £250-£300 or so more than a 780 depending where you buy it.

And before anyone tries to play the "fanboy" card, as I said before, I really couldn't give a flying **** what's in my pc. Having some type of idiotic "allegiance" to a hardware company really does boggle the mind.
 
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