Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

[Shamikebab]

Ah yes, sorry I was talking about players we actually need rather than just silly signings

 

[Newbie007]

Crespo
Schevchenko
Zola
Ballack
Torres
Overmars
Pires
Van Nistle Horse
Bergkamp
Aguero
Yaya Toure
Veron

I would say only Yaya Toure was possibly world class when they came over here, and I can't remember any of them being chased by other bigs teams at the time they signed.

 

[Pighardia]

I would say only Yaya Toure was possibly world class when they came over here, and I can't remember any of them being chased by other bigs teams at the time they signed.

They were all world class before they came here... With the possible exception of a few that I can't remember, being Overmars, Pires and Van Nistelrooy

 

[Gilly]

Pires :/

 

[Newbie007]

They were all world class before they came here... With the possible exception of a few that I can't remember, being Overmars, Pires and Van Nistelrooy

Were they ********, if yuo beleive that your definition of world class must be really low.

 

[Azza]

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews 2m

Sky sources: Manchester United to make £35m offer for Barcelona's Cesc Fabregas #SSN

 

[Wayn0r]

o_o

 

[Steedie]

Moyes pls

 

[manic111]

Were they ********, if yuo beleive that your definition of world class must be really low.

Bergkamp was incredible when he went to Arsenal, as was Overmars. Torres burst onto the scene at Liverpool. In his first couple of seasons there he was the best in the world, implying that he was world class when he went there. Sheva never played well at Chelsea, but when he went there he was world class. You could argue the same for Crespo. Ballack was one of the best around when he went to Chelsea as well.

The debate is how good they were at the time they moved, not how well they played for their new club.

Just because they weren't chased by any of the big teams, it doesn't mean they're not world class. Only Real Madrid chased Ronaldo. Must mean he wasn't world class when he went there.

 

[CliffyG]

I would be amazed and massively disappointed if Cesc went to Man United.

 

[manic111]

I would be amazed and massively disappointed if Cesc went to Man United.

And me. More because I find their lack of midfielders funny (it's about the only thing I can get kicks out of as a Liverpool fan ) than any affiliation with Fabregas though!

 

[Wayn0r]

I would be amazed and massively disappointed if Cesc went to Man United.

Did you say the same about RVP?

Im unsure. There is no doubting his ability. Cant see him leaving Barca though, especially not to us.

 

[Newbie007]

Bergkamp was incredible when he went to Arsenal, as was Overmars. Torres burst onto the scene at Liverpool. In his first couple of seasons there he was the best in the world, implying that he was world class when he went there. Sheva never played well at Chelsea, but when he went there he was world class. You could argue the same for Crespo. Ballack was one of the best around when he went to Chelsea as well.

Just because they weren't chased by any of the big teams, it doesn't mean they're not world class.

Torres was not world class when he signed for us, he developed into a world class striker sure, same with Berkamp, overmars etc. All very good at the time they signed but thats totally different from being World class when signing for a team. Ballack was on the wind down, was he ever world class, debateable, yes he was very very good though.

Shevchencko and Toure I'll give you as being world class but as I said originally, with the top top players if there is a choice between a EPL club and a.n.other, the player will always choose a.n.other.

Only Real Madrid chased Ronaldo. Must mean he wasn't world class when he went there.

Never said that, guess reading isnt a strong point for you. oh and back at you.

 

[Newbie007]

Don't Arsenal have 1st refusal on Fabregas or something similar?

 

[Shamikebab]

Are we having an argument about what world class means again? An entirely subjective term?

 

[manic111]

Never said that, guess reading isnt a strong point for you. oh and back at you.

I would say only Yaya Toure was possibly world class when they came over here, and I can't remember any of them being chased by other bigs teams at the time they signed.

Then why is the latter half of the above relevant?

 

[Newbie007]

Then why is the latter half of the above relevant?

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Thinking on it, I can't remember the alst time a EPL club beat off a 'big' team ffrom another league for a big signing.

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Are we having an argument about what world class means again? An entirely subjective term?

yeah Slow news days

 

[Azza]

Looks like it's real.

Mark Ogden ‏@MOgdenTelegraph 6m

Man Utd waiting to hear back from Barcelona after lodging 30 m euro bid for Cesc Fabregas

I can't see Barcelona accepting an offer like that.

 

[manic111]

Ahh, so the argument isn't that world class talent doesn't come to England, but that it doesn't come if other big clubs want it?

Makes more sense. Arguably because other clubs (Madrid, Barca particularly) generally pay more though?

 

[Newbie007]

Ahh, so the argument isn't that world class talent doesn't come to England, but that it doesn't come if other big clubs want it?

Pretty much, you only have to look at all the top players that were apparently signing for english clubs only to sign for Real, Bayern, Monaco, PSG, Dortmund etc.

The journos are getting a hell of a lot wrong this summer, more so than usual..