David Cameron urges internet firms to block child abuse images

Well story this morning is that everyone will have to opt in to "adult content" by the end of the year as it will be blocked by default.

I have two concerns.

1) the press are stating it to be porn block, I couldn't care less about this, but the govt keep calling it " adult content" which is a much wider scope. Want to gamble? Best opt in you dirty pervert!

2) in previous conversations the govt have suggested a solution similar to the "net protect" software. I hope not! Anyone who's been in a organisation who has used it knows exactly what I mean. Search for "grass cutting techniques" for example - blocked! Grass is a term associate with drug use, etc etc.

Meh.
 
Indeed, I'm not sure exactly what they mean by adult content.

On the plus side, if they stick to this plan the chances of them getting in next election have just dropped significantly.

Cameron is over-estimated the "moral integrity" of his voter-base. :D
 
I don't like this direction at all. While I totally support the removal of illegal images and appropriate consequences for those posting them, what this appears to me to be is government censorship which will start with CP and be extended to other terms of their choosing later. In short I don't trust this or future governments to not abuse the blacklist of words in the future.
 
Hades said:
I don't like this direction at all. While I totally support the removal of illegal images and appropriate consequences for those posting them, what this appears to me to be is government censorship which will start with CP and be extended to other terms of their choosing later. In short I don't trust this or future governments to not abuse the blacklist of words in the future.
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From the looks of todays article it's already going to include none-illegal adult material.

With the intention of a "default filter" internet with an opt in system.

Basically the exact kind of nanny state idea that the political right had lambasted Labour for - for quite some time.

Hyburnate said:
The problem with this is it's not actually going to affect whom it's aimed at.
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Also this.
 
Well, I'm unsure whom it's aimed at currently, at this rate I think he's using it as an excuse to just censor the entire internet. I'm going to have to start paying for a private proxy service aren't I? -_-
 
Azza said:
Obviously such things are hurrendous but what he says in his chat is just astounding. Why hasnt anyone sat down and explained to him and the simplest of terms how the internet works. Does he honestly believe people go and Ask Jeeves "how to find CP"?
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I don't really see whats wrong with what he said, having Google blacklist certain combinations of search terms and redirecting people to a warning page actually sounds like a good idea (IMO it should also email the police their details and the terms used).
 
ubersonic said:
I don't really see whats wrong with what he said, having Google blacklist certain combinations of search terms and redirecting people to a warning page actually sounds like a good idea (IMO it should also email the police their details and the terms used).
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I'm sure some people also thought the terrorism act would only be used to guard against acts of terrorism. But it has been used to arrest people for all sorts of things. I don't doubt for one minute that once this blacklist is in place the search terms will be expanded greatly over time to include non-illeagal terms.
 
Hades said:
I'm sure some people also thought the terrorism act would only be used to guard against acts of terrorism. But it has been used to arrest people for all sorts of things. I don't doubt for one minute that once this blacklist is in place the search terms will be expanded greatly over time to include non-illeagal terms.
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Tbf that's because our police are generally crap and have been for decades, this'll be enforced by Google who presumably know what they're doing and will do as little as possible because anything else will cost them profit.

Why would the government be interested in non-illegal searches?
 
Hades said:
I'm sure some people also thought the terrorism act would only be used to guard against acts of terrorism. But it has been used to arrest people for all sorts of things. I don't doubt for one minute that once this blacklist is in place the search terms will be expanded greatly over time to include non-illeagal terms.
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Hyburnate said:
Well, I'm unsure whom it's aimed at currently, at this rate I think he's using it as an excuse to just censor the entire internet. I'm going to have to start paying for a private proxy service aren't I? -_-
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We agree on many things it seems, the anti-terrorism act was written very badly however.
 
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Every household in the UK is to have pornography blocked by their internet provider unless they choose to receive it, David Cameron is to announce.
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So the Government will be building up a "perv list" then? :eek:
 
Let me make this clear. Have the Cameron's administration just given me two choices:

1) let the government censorship the Internet in hope of preventing me becoming a paedophile,
2) force me to opt-in to censor-free Internet and put me on some kind of watchlist for potential child molesters?

What a wonderful world we live in. I'm sure there is absolutely NO WAY anyone would think of abusing this law to their own benefit.
 
or just stop using the regular internet for porn.

all the government will do is push more people onto TOR which they have shown they have no control over at all and can't even stop an ebay of drugs website
 
Interestingly 'simulated crime' images will be illegal to view, too. A fairly bizarre form of porn and I cant imagine the sort of person who would want that but will they also be using the same logic to make it illegal to view simulated murder and dismemberment? If not why not? How are movies like Saw still acceptable under this climate?

Surely movies and t.v. have been full of simulated crime since movies and t.v began. Infact are there not Hollywood movies containing such scenes
 
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I currently use Tor for my torrents search in my regular IP find a result copy the URL open it in Tor download, done.

The thing is it's pretty simple how it works:

1) Court order against a specific URL to be force blocked by all ISP's
2) Court order to bring down the server ONLY if it's in the UK otherwise it has to go to the local countries justice system.


1) Only affects it from PC > ISP > URL so inserting tor into the mix screws things PC > ISP > TOR > URL
2) This takes a lot of money and time because clone sites will pop up every day.

Another question: What do they define as abuse?
 
You know what I'm hoping for...

1. For the law to come in.

2. 3 months later anonymous hack into the ISP servers & release a full list of "opt in" households, including the PM & most of our MP's.

3. I laugh, very loudly.
 
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