Homophobic BnB hypocrisy

[RDM]

Yeah, that amounts to the same thing if you ask me.

No it isn't, you can dislike whomever you want, you can refuse to let gay people, black people, disabled people or whatever in your own home. What changes is if you decide that you want to run a business, in which case you have to comply with the legislation for running a business. Much like a private home can be as slovenly as it likes with it's kitchen but if you run a bed and breakfast you need to follow the food hygiene regulations.

I own a B&B, I don't like gays, I don't want them in my B&B. Seems like a personal choice based on who you like or not, especially in light of the fact that this fella doesn't care about his religion's rules.

If you cannot put your personal dislikes to one side I would suggest that the service industry is not for you...

What has running a business got to do with it? Business owners have to like gays? Nonsense.

No, they don't have to like gays, however they cannot discriminate against them. As a society we have decided that arbitrary discrimination due to gender, sexual orientation, race and religion is a bad thing and so if you run a business in the UK you have to follow the rules around that. However that doesn't stop you disliking them, however if you cannot put that dislike to one side whilst working I suggest not entering the service industry.

And there is legislation about how I treat people. I can't just walk past some minorities and shout some descriptors of them at the top of my voice, I might be arrested for "hate" crimes. Let's be clear that I don't have the urge to do this, but I should be allowed to as a free man should I so desire.

So you honestly think it should be OK to shout racial abuse at people?

 

[Frightful Boar]

So you honestly think it should be OK to shout racial abuse at people?

I don't think it's "OK" but I believe making it illegal is tantamount to introducing thought police.

I don't think shouting "get yer **** out" at women is "OK" but making it illegal is etc etc.

You getting the point yet?

My overall point though is that hypocrisy and homophobia aren't that big a deal and people crying like recently deflowered virgins about it really should get a grip.

 

[RDM]

I don't think it's "OK" but I believe making it illegal is tantamount to introducing thought police.

Except it isn't, because you can still think whatever you want.

I don't think shouting "get yer **** out" at women is "OK" but making it illegal is etc etc.

So sexual harassment shouldn't be illegal?

You getting the point yet?

The point seems to be that you are conflating actions with thinking.

My overall point though is that hypocrisy and homophobia aren't that big a deal and people crying like recently deflowered virgins about it really should get a grip.

And if the discrimination you think isn't a big deal was constantly applied to you, you would still be OK with it? Somehow I doubt it.

 

[Frightful Boar]

Except it isn't, because you can still think whatever you want.



So sexual harassment shouldn't be illegal?



The point seems to be that you are conflating actions with thinking.



And if the discrimination you think isn't a big deal was constantly applied to you, you would still be OK with it? Somehow I doubt it.

Another person who lives for the argument. Honestly, you people who quote line by line should get laid or something.

You don't know me so you can doubt what you want.

 

[RDM]

Another person who lives for the argument.

Another person who isn't really sure what the "discussion" bit of "General Discussion" means?

Honestly, you people who quote line by line should get laid or something.

I am not entirely sure how my ability to cut and paste affects my chances of having sex...

You don't know me so you can doubt what you want.

You could always enlighten me? Or you could always say "Nah, I wouldn't mind being discriminated against, it's character building."

 

[Freakbro]

and people crying like recently deflowered virgins about it really should get a grip.

Err...if they are crying on you, I don't think you are doing it right...

 

[Frightful Boar]

Another person who isn't really sure what the "discussion" bit of "General Discussion" means?

You know perfectly well that argument does not equal discussion.

And my point was that nobody ever changes their minds so arguing is fruitless, putting across opinions can be enlightening, but line by line ceaselessly making up points of view to "prove" someone else wrong is just absolutely lame.

It is tiresome though having to explain every piece of subtext, but I should expect it from people who are butthurt by hypocrisy.

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[RDM]

And my point was that nobody ever changes their minds so arguing is fruitless, putting across opinions can be enlightening, but line by line ceaselessly making up points of view to "prove" someone else wrong is just absolutely lame.

I tend to do the line by line bit for clarity rather than to score points. The extra effort involved is minimal.

It is tiresome though having to explain every piece of subtext, but I should expect it from people who are butthurt by hypocrisy.

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As a straight white male I really don't have to worry too much about widespread discrimination against me, but having a bit of empathy for those that do never hurts.

 

[Frightful Boar]

As a straight white male I really don't have to worry too much about widespread discrimination against me, but having a bit of empathy for those that do never hurts.

I don't agree but admit that it's an admirable perspective.

 

[AmyS]

Err...if they are crying on you, I don't think you are doing it right...

 

[Frightful Boar]

Nice. You create 2nd accounts to laugh at your own jokes?

 

[AmyS]

Nice. You create 2nd accounts to laugh at your own jokes?

No, he hasn't. I laughed.

 

[spoffle]

Nice. You create 2nd accounts to laugh at your own jokes?

Do you genuinely believe that? Wow...

 

[robgmun]

Err...if they are crying on you, I don't think you are doing it right...

Just caught up with this comment, sheer class!

Frightful Boar - You're a bigoted excuse for a human being and i suggest you tone it down. As you live up to your username in every thread you post in.

In fact i think you fully intended to troll this forum from the very start when you created your account.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

My overall point though is that hypocrisy and homophobia aren't that big a deal

It's adorable that you think you have a point.

 

[elmarko]

It's adorable that you think you have a point.

 

[Frightful Boar]

Do you genuinely believe that? Wow...

No, I was just teasing, no need for faux outrage.

 

[dirtychinchilla]

I think it's perfectly acceptable to discriminate due to religion. The legislation exists so that you cannot discriminate over elements of a person which they cannot choose ie race, gender, sexuality, appearance, disability etc. Religion is a choice, just like if they refused you on grounds of being a naturist and they don't want naked people in their B&B. Feel free to discriminate against choice.

 

[holymonk]

Exactly, don't people discriminate against others in every moment of each day, whether it be attire, manner, class, age, sex. We all form judgements of people and directly or indirectly there must be some discrimination as a result.

Take gypsy's for example.

 

[Schlong&Stable]

Full disclosure - I am not a religious person.

I don't see how the two things can be compared to be honest. I am sure he accepts that both are sinful acts, but there is a difference between succumbing to his own temptation and condoning another persons sin. The personal battle with sin is obviously a great challenge, and Christians don't expect every battle to be a triumph. But as the owner of a B&B he can be detached about the sin of homosexual men and do his best to guide them towards the light or what have you.

In short, it doesn't really undermine his position that he has himself sinned. All men and women sin.