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uksoldierboy

uksoldierboy

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Hiya all,
Need the best i can get for gaming with a budget of £350-370.
Sole use is for gaming.
Intel or AMD(i suppose AMD would be cheaper) I've got gpu 6950 which i'll flash to 6970 is possible, either way it'll be upgraded when i can.
Got a mouse, keyboard and monitor.
want new so no MM or other secondhand sites please.
Thanks guys for any help.
 
CreateNPlay said:
3570k scores 7k, worse than the AMD
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The performance varies a lot depending on the game. Starcraft 2 for example would do far better on the 3570K.

The 3570K is fine, but there's no upgrade option. I'd be reluctant to spend out on new hardware that can't be upgraded, when something a lot cheaper would do as well for just about everything.
 
teppic said:
The performance varies a lot depending on the game. Starcraft 2 for example would do far better on the 3570K.

The 3570K is fine, but there's no upgrade option. I'd be reluctant to spend out on new hardware that can't be upgraded, when something a lot cheaper would do as well for just about everything.
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Yeah you could use your Piledriver build and spend more money cooling and oc'ing if you wanted to.
 
Idleman said:
And that means what, in terms of gaming? I would still have the 3570k over the 8320.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html
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Me too bud, I will +1 your suggestion.

TTL did a review of a Bitfenix Prodigy system with an OC'd i5K and a 7870LE. It beat an All AMD rig with an OC'd 8350 and the 7970. When you consider the 8350 uses more power at stock than an OC'd Ivy i5K and the fact the Tahiti 7870LE (lightened 7950) is MUCH cheaper it really is an eye opener
 
honosuseri said:
Me too bud, I will +1 your suggestion.

TTL did a review of a Bitfenix Prodigy system with an OC'd i5K and a 7870LE. It beat an All AMD rig with an OC'd 8350 and the 7970. When you consider the 8350 uses more power at stock than an OC'd Ivy i5K and the fact the Tahiti 7870LE (lightened 7950) is MUCH cheaper it really is an eye opener
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It really depends on the games. If you're talking recent console-type games, the FX chips have no problems keeping up with the i5s, sometimes ahead too.
 
teppic said:
It really depends on the games. If you're talking recent console-type games, the FX chips have no problems keeping up with the i5s, sometimes ahead too.
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Can I ask why you have the 4770K and not the 8320/8350 then? ;)

I'm not a fanboy fella infact I still have an AMD Phenom II setup for HTPC use. Way back in the day it was heavily rumoured that Bulldozer would be a drop in upgrade for the AM2+/AM3 socket. Long story short I was screwed over as you needed the 900 chipset or a new AM3+ mobo, so I've learned not to expect too much from AMD :P

That said I'm happy to recommend their Trinity/Richland FM2 platform for a cheap general use home PCs as the IGP is great (they are using a modded version for the next gen consoles). The only time I'd really recommend an 8320 is if it's a CPU drop in upgrade.
 
honosuseri said:
Can I ask why you have the 4770K and not the 8320/8350 then? ;)

I'm not a fanboy fella infact I still have an AMD Phenom II setup for HTPC use. Way back in the day it was heavily rumoured that Bulldozer would be a drop in upgrade for the AM2+/AM3 socket. Long story short I was screwed over as you needed the 900 chipset or a new AM3+ mobo, so I've learned not to expect too much from AMD :P

That said I'm happy to recommend their Trinity/Richland FM2 platform for a cheap general use home PCs as the IGP is great (they are using a modded version for the next gen consoles). The only time I'd really recommend an 8320 is if it's a CPU drop in upgrade.
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As my system isn't just for gaming :) I've got a 4670K too!

The AM3+ 970/990 boards are guaranteed for the next gen and the one after that. So for a relatively cheap processor like this (which will do really well for almost all games), there's a good upgrade option down the line too.

I'd personally generally go for Haswell over the current FX series for gaming (unless someone specifically wants to play games that run brilliantly on the FX CPUs, like BF3/BF4 and Crysis 3), but not Ivy Bridge.
 
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CreateNPlay said:
YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £169.99
1 x Avexir MPower Yellow Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U24001004G-2CM) £79.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Gigabyte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £45.95
Total : £344.88 (includes shipping : FREE).

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Don't spend that much on 8gb of RAM...

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £191.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-D3HP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £103.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £43.99
Total : £400.32 (includes shipping : £9.50).



For a bit more
 
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Cheers for the help so far guys,
I'd love an I5 system, but it's the no upgrade route that's causing me the headaches at the moment.
Are the fx 6300 any good? Games I'm looking at playing are stuff like bf3-4 when it's out, dayz and arma 3 amongst others.
A solid upgrade path is what I'm looking for most.
 
teppic said:
As my system isn't just for gaming :) I've got a 4670K too!

The AM3+ 970/990 boards are guaranteed for the next gen and the one after that. So for a relatively cheap processor like this (which will do really well for almost all games), there's a good upgrade option down the line too.

I'd personally generally go for Haswell over the current FX series for gaming (unless someone specifically wants to play games that run brilliantly on the FX CPUs, like BF3/BF4 and Crysis 3), but not Ivy Bridge.
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Bulldozer or "Faildozer" as it was nicknamed was a flop anyway. That's what I mean by not expecting much from AMD, we have no idea what the performance of Steamroller will be. You see in most threads people tend to have their setup for a good 3 years or so before upgrading and then it tends to be a new mobo bundle purchased. Of course there are always "Tech junkies" who have to play with the newest kit ;)

Haswell has amazing power saving features and is say around 200Mhz ahead clock for clock over Ivy. Anyone on a 1155 system already won't feel the need to upgrade. Where Intel have "dropped the ball" is the poor TIM under the IHS which is why we see people de-lidding the CPU to improve temps for overclocking.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £185.99
1 x **B Grade** Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £60.00
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
1 x Adata XPG Gaming v1.0 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AX3U1600GC4G9-2G) £43.99
Total : £338.93 (includes shipping : FREE).



That saves some cash over my buddies spec as the mobo is B grade, he might need some sata cables though. That £30 saved could pay for a heatsink to OC. A good Haswell spec will be overbudget.......

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £191.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-D3HP Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £103.99
1 x Patriot Viper "Black Mamba" Generation 3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-17000C11 2133MHz Dual CHannel Kit (PV38G213C1K) £59.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £48.95
Total : £404.92 (includes shipping : FREE).



I look forward to seeing what he settles on in the end :)
 
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uksoldierboy said:
Cheers for the help so far guys,
I'd love an I5 system, but it's the no upgrade route that's causing me the headaches at the moment.
Are the fx 6300 any good? Games I'm looking at playing are stuff like bf3-4 when it's out, dayz and arma 3 amongst others.
A solid upgrade path is what I'm looking for most.
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I posted these benchmarks yesterday. The 6300 overclocked to 4.5GHz would give the same results as an 8350 at stock.

BF3: http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1598/pg6/amd-fx-8350-processor-review-battlefield-3.html

Console type games:

http://b1211.hizliresim.com/13/x/gd5xb.png
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/2055/aliens-vs-predator.jpg
http://cdn.overclock.net/7/7d/500x1000px-LL-7d31c35c_proz.jpeg
http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/2055/battlefield-3-results.jpg
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/586/bench/Gaming_01.png
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/586/bench/Gaming_02.png
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/586/bench/Gaming_03.png
http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/FX-8350/FX-8350-65.jpg
http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/655/bench/CPU_03.png
 
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