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Which graphics card for my system - 770 v 7970

Kaapstad said:
Free games can be a pain in the butt

They are great if you are going to use them yourself.

Having said that if you are going to sell them, depending on how you do it, it can use several hours of your time. Most people can make more money for less hassle doing a couple of hours overtime at work.

The last free games I got with an AMD card I gave away as it was more hassle than it was worth to sell them.
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Where did this come from?

You do realise the 7970 is same price level (if not cheaper than) as the 770, even if ignoring the free games? You made it sounded like the 7970 needed to have the games sold in order to match 770's price...
 
Several hours of your time lol? Wtf honestly, list them all on MM or avforums for current going rate which takes what? A few minutes max, accept money for each one and spend a minute sending the code. Seriously Kaap do you just make stuff up for arguments sake?
 
Suarez7 said:
Several hours of your time lol? Wtf honestly, list them all on MM or avforums for current going rate which takes what? A few minutes max, accept money for each one and spend a minute sending the code. Seriously Kaap do you just make stuff up for arguments sake?
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May be he's using his own efficiency as a scale for others? :p

Seriously...complaining about free games...:D
 
Kaapstad said:
Free games can be a pain in the butt

They are great if you are going to use them yourself.

Having said that if you are going to sell them, depending on how you do it, it can use several hours of your time. Most people can make more money for less hassle doing a couple of hours overtime at work.

The last free games I got with an AMD card I gave away as it was more hassle than it was worth to sell them.
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I put the ones that came with my mega pack 7970 lightning on a popular auction site for a total of £70 buyout, took <60 seconds with a Nokia 920 and money went straight to my Paypal account, kind of offset the purchase price of the card somewhat, in total I think I ended up paying £280 for the card after selling off all the free stuff.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Where did this come from?

You do realise the 7970 is same price level (if not cheaper than) as the 770, even if ignoring the free games? You made it sounded like the 7970 needed to have the games sold in order to match 770's price...
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Where did I mention the HD 7970

ubersonic said:
I put the ones that came with my mega pack 7970 lightning on a popular auction site for a total of £70 buyout, took <60 seconds with a Nokia 920 and money went straight to my Paypal account, kind of offset the purchase price of the card somewhat, in total I think I ended up paying £280 for the card after selling off all the free stuff.
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Just shows I was wrong on this one. The thing is it is important to admit when you get it wrong.
 
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Why's it only Spoffle/LTMatt banned?
Don't care who's wrong/right, but shouldn't all involved get suspended? (No offence to anyone)

It's getting flipping ridiculous, every single thread, I just browse and see yet another tedious argument.

It's also pretty obvious who has a bias towards X vendor.
 
dmferrett said:
The consoles also do not have windows hogging up to 2gb+ of ram like PC's do.
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"A new source familiar with the matter has provided additional information to Digital Foundry that confirms only 4.5GB of the PS4's 8GB GDDR5 memory pool is guaranteed to game developers right now, while also clarifying how the PS4's "flexible memory" works in practice.

In real terms, an additional 512MB of physical RAM may be available in addition to the 4.5GB mentioned in the SDK. Flexible memory consists of physical and virtual spaces, and the latter introduces paging issues which impact performance. In our original story we combined them together.

For practical game applications, the correct figures for this story, as we understand it now, are a guaranteed 4.5GB for development and a further 512MB from the flexible pool. We have updated the headline accordingly."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-system-software-memory

Blazin
 
Martini1991 said:
Why's it only Spoffle/LTMatt banned?
Don't care who's wrong/right, but shouldn't all involved get suspended? (No offence to anyone)

It's getting flipping ridiculous, every single thread, I just browse and see yet another tedious argument.

It's also pretty obvious who has a bias towards X vendor.
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Not sure if it was for this thread they received suspensions. Agree though that everyone involved should get the same treatment even if that includes myself.
 
Marine-RX179 said:
I would love to toss in the good old "Nvidia drivers are better and more reliable", but their more recent drivers proves otherwise (for gamers at least) :(
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The only issue I've had with my Nvidia driver is that I can't run Deus Ex: Human Revolution (not that it isn't powerful enough, it just won't run. When I run it with the Intel integrated graphics it works fine - some random driver issue that even ATI cards have)

However, compared to the awful ATI drivers I've been subjected to over the years (had a HD4850m in my laptop and my friend has a HD5970 and HD6850), the Nvidia software that I use with my GTX 780 is brilliant. I can update the driver within the software with one click of a button! Not like my ATI card, where I had to go to the AMD site to find the correct driver version for my version of Windows. And then when installing it, instead of detecting and removing the previous driver first, it installed it alongside the existing one. A few times I even had to use DriverSweeper to get rid of the dang thing! To me, the ATI (now AMD?) drivers just seemed so un-intuitive. Obviously this is just my opinion, and I haven't personally used an HD7*** series card, so it may be a lot better now.

But that was the main reason for switching from AMD to Nvidia, as well as in my personal experience, ENB mods run a lot better on Nvidia cards than ATI cards (and I use lots of ENB mods for Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout NV, GTA 4, Deus EX HR when I get it working)

Anyway, rant over, I just thought I'd share some of the other aspects that I've found to be important when choosing graphics cards.

Blazin
 
So for 1080p/1200p:

770 for Physx and IMO slightly faster performance vs 7970 at stock clocks.

7970 for free games and cheaper price (?)

Can we just leave it at this?
 
se_vietboi said:
So for 1080p/1200p:

770 for Physx and IMO slightly faster performance vs 7970 at stock clocks.

7970 for free games and cheaper price (?)

Can we just leave it at this?
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I don't think when considering a single GPU setup that it's ability to run PhysX is really much of a bonus. From what I understand of it using PhysX does mean you take a performance hit which for a single GPU is not good.
 
Kaapstad said:
I don't think when considering a single GPU setup that it's ability to run PhysX is really much of a bonus. From what I understand of it using PhysX does mean you take a performance hit which for a single GPU is not good.
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I agree, PhysX is a feature that is a bonus but it is overstated IMHO considering enabling full GPU PhysX causes a ~40% performance hit. It's nice to have but when gaming at 2560x1600 on my single GTX680, PhysX was one of the 1st effects to be dropped to low, or even off.
 
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Kaapstad said:
+1

Worse still none of my GPUs has ever seen a PhysX game.
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Would be interesting to see some benchies from full fat physx titles. Batman, Mirrors Edge, BL2 etc etc. Can't imagine it's going to make your titans crawl to a halt but would be nice to see just how much it affects performance. 40% can't be right for all physx titles.
 
Suarez7 said:
Would be interesting to see some benchies from full fat physx titles. Batman, Mirrors Edge, BL2 etc etc. Can't imagine it's going to make your titans crawl to a halt but would be nice to see just how much it affects performance. 40% can't be right for all physx titles.
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A quick Google found this: http://physxinfo.com/news/9653/borderlands-2-physx-benchmark-roundup

It compares the 6 series cards however, as it is nearly a year old. Still an interesting read though

Blazin
 
Suarez7 said:
Nice find, actually a substantial difference between low/off and high.
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Yes I was surprised at how much (nearly 50% in some of them) of a performance hit it took! Although this may be marginally better with the 7 series cards.

I don't notice much difference when running PhysX in BL2 with my GTX780, but I guess it still runs above 60fps with it on so I won't notice it.

Blazin
 
Kaapstad said:
I don't think when considering a single GPU setup that it's ability to run PhysX is really much of a bonus. From what I understand of it using PhysX does mean you take a performance hit which for a single GPU is not good.
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Its a selling point for some such as myself so I just included it as a factor in decision making. If people don't want it then fine they can always choose something else ^^
 
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