Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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Snax said:
The Ronaldo transfer was just before the insane injection of cash European football received from sheikhs and oligarchs (bar abramovich). The inflation of transfer prices over the recent 3 seasons has been insane.

Bale is probably the best attainable football player in Europe (assuming the likes of messi, rvp, ronaldo , iniesta etc are unattainable). I dont think it is at all surprising or unreasonable for £85m+ to be the srlling price. The amount of cash spunked on players distinctly closer to good than excellent is nuts.

The Ronaldo transfer was a different era and always will be. The comparisons are misleading.
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I dont think that's true about him being rhe best attainable. Wnd okay whilst they are not obtainable right now, Falcao and cavani were just obtained for less than half that figure. In fact you could offer 100 million for pretty much any player in Europe or outside and it would el auto be accepted for any one but neymar Messi or Ronaldo.

If we offered 100 million for fabregas I'm sure they would accept the offer.
 
The Running Man said:
I dont think that's true about him being rhe best attainable. Wnd okay whilst they are not obtainable right now, Falcao and cavani were just obtained for less than half that figure. In fact you could offer 100 million for pretty much any player in Europe or outside and it would el auto be accepted for any one but neymar Messi or Ronaldo.

If we offered 100 million for fabregas I'm sure they would accept the offer.
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I think thats probably a fair point. I would say that Messi and Ronaldo are the only players who would not be sold for £100m. The Rest of the Barca team would including Neymar I would have thought.
 
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Transfer of the season coming up. :p
 
FrankJH said:
Surely thats irrelevant as he has rarely (if ever) played on the right
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Look at where a lot of bales goals came from last season. Do you think Real are buying him to play second fiddle to Ronaldo. He will be utilised on the right. And like someone mentioned he swapped constantly with Lennon throughout games.
 
seeing as it seems it's not just Baz87 who can't seem to get his head around why bale may command such a fee. here's a good bit from today's telegraph.

bale's fee would not be simply 'just for footballing reasons'

Shades of David Beckham as Real Madrid prepare to buy British again and lure Gareth Bale to Spain
It is 10 years this week since David Beckham made his debut for Real Madrid. Pony-tailed, smiling as he was given five huge bouquets of flowers before the friendly with China Dragons in Beijing, he played 72 minutes in a 4-0 win.

A decade on, Real Madrid president Florentino Pérez wants to buy British again and the similarities between what Gareth Bale will find in the Spanish capital and what greeted Beckham are striking.

There is someone playing in his position for starters. Just as Beckham found Luis Figo occupying his favoured right-side midfield berth, Bale has Cristiano Ronaldo operating on the left-hand side of Madrid’s attack behind centre-forward Karim Benzema.

Bale played centrally and on the right last season for Andre Villas-Boas but Madrid have just signed Spain Under-21 international Isco, who prefers a central position, and although Ángel Di Maria may yet end up at Tottenham as part of the deal that moves Bale to Spain, that still leaves Mesut Özil currently playing reluctantly on the right.

Beckham was drafted straight into a defensive central midfield position in 2003; Bale, at least for now, is being pandered to.

Despite Ronaldo scoring 201 goals in 199 games from his position on the left, new coach Carlo Ancelotti has, in two of the season’s first three friendlies, moved him towards a more central position.

f Madrid persist with two sitting midfielders – and they currently have five, Xabi Alonso, Asier Illarramendi, Luka Modric, Sami Khedira and Carlos Casemiro, in their squad – then Bale, Özil, Isco and Ronaldo will either contest the three berths behind Karim Benzema, or the Frenchman will himself lose his place to a redeployed Ronaldo.

No wonder many Madrid supporters have questioned if another attacking midfielder is what they most need.

Which leads to another overriding similarity with Beckham: Bale will not just be coming to play football.

Days after Barcelona paid £49.6 million for Neymar, they were signing a new three-year global partnership deal with Panasonic – helped by the fact their incoming Brazilian already had a commercial deal with the Japanese company.

Barcelona’s capture of Neymar persuaded Pérez that he needed to try to sign Bale this summer.

The face of BT Sport’s Premier League coverage is emerging as one of football’s most marketable images.

He will not be at next year’s World Cup but what he loses to Neymar in national team comparisons, he gains speaking English – the language of much of the territory Madrid are still desperate to dominate.

Such is the desire to expand La Liga’s appeal to Asia and the United States, the broadcaster with the rights for next season’s first league clasico, Mediapro, want the game to kick-off at midday to reach more of the overseas market.

Pérez was stunned by the global appeal of not just Beckham, but also Michael Owen and Jonathan Woodgate.

He never tires of telling supporters that Beckham paid his own wages by increasing club revenue. He will want his pound of flesh from Bale, who will need to lose any timid reticence he has about doing anything more than just playing football.

Pérez would love to have Bale in the United States now as Madrid tour for two weeks playing against LA Galaxy on Thursday before fixtures in Florida, Phoenix and St Louis.

But despite the Bale-related noise that preceded the squad’s departure, it is still not clear whether the Spanish club can meet Tottenham’s asking price.

When Beckham was signed in 2003, a fiscal loophole allowed Madrid to pay his tax at a much reduced rate – an advantage no longer available to them as they contemplate Bale’s wages.

In 2009, when they broke the transfer record twice in the same summer to bring in Kaka and Ronaldo, they also benefited from bank loans totalling £130  million.

Spain’s economy and the financial state of the league has changed a lot since then and now there is no such assistance.

If Bale is really to become Madrid’s Beckham 10 years on, the deal might have to happen with the season already started.

That will spare any pre-season Bale-mania on tour but Pérez will already be plotting for next summer — to pay for a £100 million player, he will have no choice.
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In hindsight, I think Arsenal should have just met Real's valuation of Higuain. Honestly, how could they expect to get Suarez from Liverpool. It's as if Wenger is inexpereinced at this kind of things.

I will gladly eat my socks if we sign Suarez.
 
So he's saying that because Bale speaks english he has huge appeal anywhere that speaks english...... because not a single other huge star in the team can speak english... what utter nonsense.

He's the face of BT sports coverage.... by not being a pundit, nor commentator, but being a face on the program at the start maybe... whoop-de-doo what a massive thing.

The fact is Real's revenue would have increased without Beckham, and Owen and Woodgate, lol. Just about every single sensibly run club has increased revenue basically year on year for 20 years, becauses thats the football industry. Why did Man U's revenue go up both after they sold Beckham and after they sold Ronaldo? Why did Real's revenue increase after Beckham left, why has their revenue increased in the past year or two without many/any really major signings.

Its media nonsense, media stories, they are trying to sell papers, 99% of the transfer talk is nonsense, presidents, ceo's, they always talk up how spending X amount on a player, or a new factory, or new technology will bring in more money, its their job to make everything look sensible.

Maybe Barca signed with Panasonic because that is who Neymar was with and it offered them a better deal. But they signed a deal because the last one was up, and they would have signed a new deal with either Panasonic or anyone else if they signed a player other than Neymar, because that is how football goes. Utd just signed a new deal, it had nothing to do with RVP, it was because they wanted a new deal. Arsenal just signed a new deal, it has nothing to do with who we've signed, significantly increases our sponsorship/commercial income and has only one thing important to it being signed.... the previous one was up. We were MASSIVELY more competitive when we signed the last one, sold all our best players, and we signed a massively better deal.... because that is just how it goes.

Perez wants to say "I signed this player for 80mil, and then I signed that deal for 100mil sponsorship... how great am I" because it makes him look good. The simple fact is he would have signed the deal for 100mil if he'd bought someone else for 30mil, or no one else.
 
opethdisciple said:
In hindsight, I think Arsenal should have just met Real's valuation of Higuain. Honestly, how could they expect to get Suarez from Liverpool. It's as if Wenger is inexpereinced at this kind of things.

I will gladly eat my socks if we sign Suarez.
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What does it matter, Higuain is a better striker, a better person, is unlikely to agitate for a move back to Real in a couple years, would cost less and would have been far less trouble while also not giving 40mil + to a direct rival to strengthen with. IF we sign Suarez it won't make up for not getting Higuain, in no way is it better to get Suarez over Higuain. Its absurd to refuse to pay 30-35mil for Higuain and pay even the same amount for Suarez, let alone more.
 
drunkenmaster said:
So he's saying that because Bale speaks english he has huge appeal anywhere that speaks english...... because not a single other huge star in the team can speak english... what utter nonsense.
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who else do madrid have whose first language is english?

i seriously cannot comprehend how people can't get the benefits bale has off the pitch that other players who are in the same ball park as him (performance wise) don't.
 
Please can we leave the "is Bale worth £100m" discussion alone now. Its going round in circles and it makes absolutely no difference what we think. Madrid will offer what they (and a team of advisors) feel he is worth to the club and Tottenham will either accept or reject that offer. No one is going to change their opinion on his value over the course of the next few weeks as it is a purely subjective matter.
 
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