Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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They'd have £86m to spend, with two top strikers already through the door....

I wonder whether the Soldado deal's linked to the Bale transfer. That deal seems to have progressed more as speculation linking Bale with a move has increased in the last week or so.

Soldado will take their spending to over £50m (iinm) with only £8m(?) coming back in. That seems like a lot for Spurs if history is anything to go by - they often spend a fair bit but usually balance that out by bringing in most of that back in with sales.
 
I know the conversation has moved on slightly, but I think that Suarez despite bing a racist cannibal, was the best player in the Premier League last season certainly the best forward or attacking player.

Meanwhile;

Tummy favourite Tommy Spurr could be signing for Blackburn Rovers.

Tommy Spurr: Blackburn Rovers set to sign Doncaster defender.

BBC Link.
 
Hopefully the £86m will allow us to expedite the stadium. We will need to keep ticking over in 5th/6th and hope the stadium brings the revenue to support the wages required to tempt top players.

I don't see us being able to fill in the fundamental flaws which were covered up by Bale last season: no one can pick a pass and our strikers are pap.

Soldado will hopefully get goals but now we have one less winger feeding him and no CM with an eye for a pass.

Our signings have been a dynamic CM and an unproven (somewhat slow) powerful wide forward.

Am not looking forward to next season...
 
Would you even want him for that money? A good player he is but I don't think he's worth 50m+ to Arsenal.

Nope, i wouldnt want us to spend a single penny on him. Much like Bale being worth £86mill, which in all honesty is absolutely insane money for someone who had an ok season by all intents and purposes compared to Ronaldo, who won 3 PL titles before he jumped to Real.

Football gone bloody mad now:p

Interesting blog here. Seems to touch on some things you mentioned above as well as go on to say that there may be some tension between board and Wenger.

Yeh i read that Amy's little essay on Arsenal and have to say i agree with a lot of the stuff she says...it seems like its Wenger that doesnt want to spend...silly french fool is so damn tight with money, always trying to find quality players at bargain basement prices:p and because of his inability to part with serious money...its no wonder that we are running out of options now this late in the window and probably spend another season being inconsistent then right at the end of the season, we manage to string a few results together to nab 4th place:p.

I just hope that this kid, Sanogo doesnt turn out to be a total flop like some of our signings ie Gervinho and Chamakh for instance. Mind you i dont expect Sanogo to get any first team playing time, probably be lucky to get some playing time in the Capital one cup or other equally useless games:p
 
Nope, i wouldnt want us to spend a single penny on him. Much like Bale being worth £86mill, which in all honesty is absolutely insane money for someone who had an ok season by all intents and purposes compared to Ronaldo, who won 3 PL titles before he jumped to Real.

Football gone bloody mad now:p

Were I an Arsenal fan I'd much rather spend £50m on Suarez than get no-one at all.

For all his many faults he's still a top class player and would help you significantly.
 
Were I an Arsenal fan I'd much rather spend £50m on Suarez than get no-one at all.

For all his many faults he's still a top class player and would help you significantly.

After hammering him all season very few Arsenal supporters will admit to wanting him until he's actually signed.

A few started the whole "he'll be different at Arsenal, Wenger won't tolerate it" nonsense but couldn't fully commit to admitting they'd love him.
 
Were I an Arsenal fan I'd much rather spend £50m on Suarez than get no-one at all.

For all his many faults he's still a top class player and would help you significantly.

I think he would probably improve the majority of football clubs, first eleven.

After hammering him all season very few Arsenal supporters will admit to wanting him until he's actually signed.

A few started the whole "he'll be different at Arsenal, Wenger won't tolerate it" nonsense but couldn't fully commit to admitting they'd love him.

I think that's true of most fans of most clubs no? I mean, a lot of people hated Ronaldo when he was at Manchester United, but he would have walked in to a lot of teams and improved them, not to mention be loved by their fans. The same goes for the racist cannibal, he'd waltz in to any number of top European sides and be loved and improve them.

Fans are fickle.
 
I know the conversation has moved on slightly, but I think that Suarez despite bing a racist cannibal, was the best player in the Premier League last season certainly the best forward or attacking player.

What made him the best player, hammering Norwich or missing chance, after chance, after chance, after chance in the 9 losses Liverpool had in which he played every single minute? THe 9 losses in which he averaged 5.7 shots in those games without a goal in any of them. The majority of Liverpools losses came not because they couldn't get the ball up the field, nor because they played crap(some for sure) but because Suarez had quite a lot of games in which he continued to be completely unable to hit a barn door.


Lets go with his last 5 prem league games of the season he had 29 shots without a goal, where Liverpool managed a single win, in a game in which he had 9 shots, 4 on target and none scored against the magnificent Aston Villa.
The teams he managed more than one goal against, Norwich, Sunderland, QPR, Wigan.

RVP outscored, out assisted Suarez, it was his first year in a new team and he joined fairly late so didn't have a full preseason with them, Suarez was settled in the team and took 18 months to have a good goal scoring season. RVP was better in a new team in which he hasn't had 18 months to settle down in.

RVP scored 1 in 5.4 shots, Suarez was 1 in 8.1 shots. Depending on who you call crap last year(Sunderland, QPR, Wigan, Reading, Newcastle, Fulham(away they are a joke), Norwich, Villa), then Suarez got 16 of 23 against the worst defences/worst teams in the league, RVP 12 of 26(including Southampton). Suarez got 70% of his goals against woeful teams, RVP 46%.

From what I can tell Suarez scored in 9 of Liverpools 16 wins, of which 3 games his goals made no telling difference. RVP scored in 17 wins of which maybe 2 games his goals made really no difference at all. Had Suarez not gone those 52 shots and 9 losses unable to score... well that was the difference between the two players all told. RVP scored more, scored more consistently, scored more important goals and scored against better teams.


Were I an Arsenal fan I'd much rather spend £50m on Suarez than get no-one at all.

For all his many faults he's still a top class player and would help you significantly.

If we don't waste 50mil, and likely 7-8mil a year at least, then we have that money to spend next window. Look at Torres, buying the wrong striker at the wrong time just because he's available and other strikers didn't come is the worst thing possible. Suarez is the wrong player, full stop, he doesn't become a less bad buy because others aren't available this window. I'd not want Suarez at 30mil for any reason, I'd rather wait till Jan or next year to spend 50mil on a striker than buy the wrong one for any price just because its right now.


After hammering him all season very few Arsenal supporters will admit to wanting him until he's actually signed.

A few started the whole "he'll be different at Arsenal, Wenger won't tolerate it" nonsense but couldn't fully commit to admitting they'd love him.

I also see entirely no reason why Wenger would be the man to make Suarez a better person... what evidence is there of Wenger being capable of that. Fergie and his red faced shouting , maybe kicking a boot at his face... maybe. Wenger? I really can't see it.

I don't think Suarez will change no matter the club or manager, I don't want him now and I don't want him if he scores 20 goals for us next season while being a total ****, there are other strikers who can score 20 goals for us without being a ****. The only time I'd want our club to genuinely consider buying Suarez is AFTER a couple of years in which Suarez had shown such massive change.
 
Were I an Arsenal fan I'd much rather spend £50m on Suarez than get no-one at all.

For all his many faults he's still a top class player and would help you significantly.

That's pretty much how I feel about him. I don't want him at Arsenal because of how much of a **** he is, but at the same time.. If you get the chance to sign someone who is as good as he is, it would be silly to turn it down. Maybe he could win Arsenal trophies? And if that's the case, maybe it's worth putting up with him for a few years?
 
FWIW I think suarez is a little genius and I'd love him at my club, this cannibal stuff has to stop though.
 
Interesting blog here. Seems to touch on some things you mentioned above as well as go on to say that there may be some tension between board and Wenger.

Even if that's true we still need a backup / competition for Chesney and some extra defensive cover. This could all be sorted in the mean time.
 
Hopefully the £86m will allow us to expedite the stadium. We will need to keep ticking over in 5th/6th and hope the stadium brings the revenue to support the wages required to tempt top players.

I don't see us being able to fill in the fundamental flaws which were covered up by Bale last season: no one can pick a pass and our strikers are pap.

Soldado will hopefully get goals but now we have one less winger feeding him and no CM with an eye for a pass.

Our signings have been a dynamic CM and an unproven (somewhat slow) powerful wide forward.

Am not looking forward to next season...

I'd disagree with the CM not being able to pick a pass, from what I saw from Holtby, he has a very good footballing brain and there were a number of through-balls he delivered that just weren't picked up due to the strikers not being on the same wavelength.

I can see him being given a lot more game time this year with hopefully Dembele stepping up his game and Paulinho showing why we broke our transfer record for him.
 
Soldado will hopefully get goals but now we have one less winger feeding him and no CM with an eye for a pass.

We've just signed Nacer Chadli ??

Everything to look forward to.. Paulinho with Sandro plus Roberto Soldado which looks like is happening.

If Bale goes, it opens up a large wallet for quality and depth. I just hope it's sooner rather than later if it is to happen.
 
Do you not think that maybe Levy has always known Bale would go which is why you've spent so much this window and the money from him will just go to balance the books?
 
Do you not think that maybe Levy has always known Bale would go which is why you've spent so much this window and the money from him will just go to balance the books?

Yes I do... although the book should still show a significant credit. Guess you can't blame Levy's resolve but at some point you have to admit defeat. I don't think there's too many teams outside the current top 3 that would look at that money and seriously not take it. Hopefully he's learnt from previous years that leaving it too late is detrimental...
 
Yes I do... although the book should still show a significant credit. Guess you can't blame Levy's resolve but at some point you have to admit defeat. I don't think there's too many teams outside the current top 3 that would look at that money and seriously not take it. Hopefully he's learnt from previous years that leaving it too late is detrimental...

He should either sell now and replace or not sell. Leaving it late is not good as that 80-100m you recieve for Bale cant be spent when the transfer window closes
 
The issue you'll have now, especially if it takes a couple of weeks to complete, is that you'll run out of time and everyone knows you have money to spend. That means you'll be paying silly money for average players. Replacing a 20 goal midfielder isn't an easy feat, you also won't be able to attract the best players due to the lack of champions league and the fact you have just sold your best player.

Bit of a difficult one although it soon changes if you qualify for the champions league, which I hope you do even as a West Ham fan :)
 
But my point is maybe he has only spent what he has so far + Soldado because he knew he was getting the Bale money and there will be no extras to come in.
 
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