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tintin82

tintin82

tintin82

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Seriously, what is it with people in this country of ours that continually moan, groan, make excuses, and think society owes them?

I read the BBC news online and the comments that people leave on different stories relating to the economy make me mad. Anyone who make a comment such as below get so many negative votes.

'Anyone can get a job in the Private sector at any time. Get your head down and graft. Stop moaning.'

'I wonder how many of these poor, struggling working class heroes, if somehow they found themselves in the same position as these evil, rich tyrants would immediately start redistributing their wealth. My guess is 0%. If people spent less time writing pathetic whiny comments about the government on the BBC and more time being proactive about improving their own life then we'd all be better off.'


Everyone seems to have an excuse about why they cant do this or do that, or would do this...but. People need to realise they are not entitled to a job, a house, and a 60inch TV, you got to work for it!

If anything, i think the problems society face today stem from the fact we have it too easy! People think they are hard done by if they cant afford to upgrade their phone or Sky package or buy that detached house 10X their salary, not because they literally cant afford to eat.

Okay, rant over! This comes of the back of the other thread about guys in their 30's still living at home like a bunch of Klingons, really wound me up.
 
Yeah. Although maybe instead of thinking that the latest car, computer chip, television, or clothes will bring happiness perhaps people need to learn to be content with their lot. I work hard for less than the UK average yearly wage and I don't always enjoy what I do but I try to make sure to stop and smell the roses as it were because you're a long time dead.

On the flip side I really want to blow £120 on a router . Partially to improve my signal and partially to show off. Yes they got to me too.
 
I've only read the first line but...I blame the newspapers. They have massive readerships and are always full of half-invented misery. Stop reading the news. I don't miss it one bit.
 
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. If you think graduates entering the labour market with massive debts, working a terrible job for a salary that just about covers living costs and maybe a couple of ridiculous displays of wealth such as trips to the pub, with no chance of realistically being able to own a property in a housing market where letting agents are effectively lawless counts as "having it too easy" then I don't know what to tell you.

You might not be experiencing any particular hardships but it doesn't mean that there isn't a larger problem.
 
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tintin82 said:
Everyone seems to have an excuse about why they cant do this or do that, or would do this...but. People need to realise they are not entitled to a job, a house, and a 60inch TV, you got to work for it!
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Only fools and horses work.
 
Caged said:
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. If you think graduates entering the labour market with massive debts, working a terrible job for a salary that just about covers living costs and maybe a couple of ridiculous displays of wealth such as trips to the pub, with no chance of realistically being able to own a property in a housing market where letting agents are effectively lawless counts as "having it too easy" then I don't know what to tell you.

You might not be experiencing any particular hardships but it doesn't mean that there isn't a larger problem.
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The point that i am trying to make is that maybe its time we teach the next generation to be a bit more responsible, and perhaps understand that they cant have it all. Difficult i know, when the goverments are not exactly careful in running the countries finances, and popular celeb culture makes kids think Kardasians are kool, and anyone doing well in school is a nerd.
As for students with massive debt (i feel a wave of backlash coming) they were not exactly forced into this position, and if they were not certain to graduate into a high demand sector with a serious skills shortage and pretty much guaranteed job, why even bother?
 
I think you're forgetting that we've had years of successive governments putting great importance on a graduate target. You can't blame teenagers still at school for believing them.

I agree that to expect to 'have it all' is not realistic, but there's a world of difference between having it all and scraping by with no real end in sight.
 
I think the OP spends too much time reading the Daily Mail et alia and not enough time in the real world.

None of the people I know think they're hard done by because they can't afford to buy a house that's priced at 10x their annual salary. They're too worried about keeping their jobs that pay barely enough to live on if you work at least 40 hours a week (and some of them are on benefits in addition to working because many wages aren't high enough to live on in this country).

Reality is not like the "all the peasants are whining freeloaders who get given every luxury you work for" stories you've been fed.

EDIT: All this whining drivel about anyone being able to get a job at any time is particularly delusional. The last time my workplace advertised a job, they had just under 300 applicants. For a very bad job, paying 2% over minumum wage and full of split shifts, swing shifts, unsociable hours and always work on demand, no stability. You people are not up to date in the real world. This isn't the 1950s any more. There aren't lots of jobs in the mines and factories and mills and not much call for servants in the house or on the estate.
 
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Caged said:
I think you're forgetting that we've had years of successive governments putting great importance on a graduate target. You can't blame teenagers still at school for believing them.

I agree that to expect to 'have it all' is not realistic, but there's a world of difference between having it all and scraping by with no real end in sight.
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The difference is huge, even if its just those with abit more to those with nothing. Remember that even the so called 'have it all' people haven't it all - they probably don't have an OcUK account! :p
 
Angilion said:
I think the OP spends too much time reading the Daily Mail et alia and not enough time in the real world.

None of the people I know think they're hard done by because they can't afford to buy a house that's priced at 10x their annual salary. They're too worried about keeping their jobs that pay barely enough to live on if you work at least 40 hours a week (and some of them are on benefits in addition to working because many wages aren't high enough to live on in this country).

Reality is not like the "all the peasants are whining freeloaders who get given every luxury you work for" stories you've been fed.
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Never read the Daily Mail, had 6 years work experience in the real world before my peers even left uni.

Of course there are people genuinely in difficult situations, and thats why we have a welfare system which i am all in favour for. But fact is many people are living beyond their means, (as demonstrated by the levels of personal debt in this country) and many refuse to make changes such as relocate for employment.
 
Caged said:
I'm not really sure what point you're trying to make. If you think graduates entering the labour market with massive debts, working a terrible job for a salary that just about covers living costs and maybe a couple of ridiculous displays of wealth such as trips to the pub, with no chance of realistically being able to own a property in a housing market where letting agents are effectively lawless counts as "having it too easy" then I don't know what to tell you.
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This pretty much sums me up right now. And that was after spending several months job hunting applying for anything and everything. Too easy.
 
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Skillmister said:
This pretty much sums me up right now. And that was after spending several months job hunting applying for anything and everything. Too easy.
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Difference being, I and many others did that in the 80s when unemployment far higher than today. We kept trying and eventually found a good job, saved money, bought house - instead of whining about it.
 
Skillmister said:
This pretty much sums me up right now. And that was after spending several months job hunting applying for anything and everything. Too easy.
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'Several months job hunting'

For real?! Does your local job center have the shutters down with a sign saying 'Closed as there are NO jobs'.
 
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