**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Nismo said:
Obviously they wouldn't cater for those people, because they would just say they are being ridiculous. Covering it up or shoving it behind a cupboard isn't really a valid get-out, is it?
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Why not? If a person doesn't want to use the Kinect features, they shouldn't have to. Obviously for Kinect-specific games that's a different story, but where the functionality is an addition to the regular controller, there's really no reason those functions can't be turned off. Being able to turn those features off is no different to being able to disconnect the Kinect sensor completely.

Nismo said:
MS were trying to move the game forward in different ways, discless game libraries, MUCH improved motion/voice control, now we just look to be getting a diluted version of that because the internet moaned a bit.

I can just about understand the changes from a business point of view, but I do wish they had stuck to their guns and offered something a little different to what Sony are giving us.
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People complained because MS were dictating the terms with seemingly no margin for compromise. It wasn't what people wanted, if they'd done enough market research they'd have learned that in a far less humiliating (and costly) fashion than they did. All they had to do was provide options; if you want to share games etc, you'll need your console online so it can do regular check-ins. Don't want that? No problem, we'll disable those features and you can use the console and your games in the way you do now.

They were smart enough to come up with those features, they should have been smart enough to realise that forcing it on everyone so abruptly was the worst possible way to do it.

If MS had got it right, it may even have paved the way for Sony to do a similar thing meaning owners of either console benefit from those sorts of features. As it is, Sony did the only thing they could in the circumstances; no online checks, no internet connection requirements, and game sharing the way it's always been.

MS ruined it for themselves, not a bunch of vocal internet whiners.
 
I the TheVoice has it spot on that if people have a reason to leave it connected, they will. That could come from MS themselves and the Kinect integration in the dashboard, but it'll more than likely happen if more and more developers add cool features to games that rely on Kinect. Whether they will do that now is another matter, but at least they know everyone will actually have a Kinect.

And let's be honest here, in reality there is no difference between having the Kinect unplugged, and going into the settings and turning it off. All MS have done is give people the option to unplug it, whereas most people I think will have it turned off through the settings, so it can be easily flicked back on if a game needs it.
 
Hopefully a Kinect-less SKU won't appear for at least a couple of years and we see devs pushing to innovate with the hardware knowing that every user has one.
 
Thing is, im confused, did MS ever officially say you COULDN'T disconnect it, I always though you could as if Kinect had a problem that would stop the entire machine working....I doubt that.

And if it comes in the box...im willing to bet a huge % will set it up.
 
cu3ed said:
Thing is, im confused, did MS ever officially say you COULDN'T disconnect it, I always though you could as if Kinect had a problem that would stop the entire machine working....I doubt that.

And if it comes in the box...im willing to bet a huge % will set it up.
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I think they initially said it was required for the console to run, so this is actually a policy change, albeit a rather minor one.

Edit: I also reckon most people will set it up, if only to see how well it works in their gaming environment. Whether they leave it set up is another issue.
 
cu3ed said:
And if it comes in the box...im willing to bet a huge % will set it up.
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Me too, I don't buy the "most people will turn it off" idea. If it's part of the console, people will want to try it out, even if it's out of novelty, and just leave it set up as-is. They won't bother to go into an menu option to disable it, or faff about behind the TV.

The only folk who will disable it outright or leave it unconnected from a fresh unboxing, will be those who vehemently opposed it in the first place. (i.e. the tin-hat brigade). TBH I pity them, as they will miss out on some cool stuff IMO just for being stubborn. If people opened up to these ideas rather than putting the barriers up, it would be a happier environment and things would progress quicker, rather than being shoved onto a back-burner for a future generation.
 
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Which despite being very vocal are in reality a tiny % that would actually not use it.

I found the Kinect 2.0 the most impressive thing this Gen between the consoles, the ability of it looks crazy accurate, now I'm not fussed in games in any real way for its use, but general "life" and the interaction for menus etc seems a really nice way of doing things.
 
I'm really looking forward to seeing how integrated Kinect is, and how much I can do with my voice. Can I control films fully with my voice (rewinding, pausing, playing), can I swap to a game without having to pick up my controller, things like that. As one of the Xbox guys said, the UI is designed to work best with Kinect, and I imagine they've put a lot of work into getting it right.
 
Soulja said:
Or the 'I don't care about the kinect brigade'
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The first Kinect I can understand that as it was an afterthought. The new Kinect is core to the console from the ground-up though, it was fundamental in the OS design. It's a damn shame the work that has been put into this and other features has been undermined, and effectively, crocked.

You wouldn't buy a Wii U whilst saying you don't care about the touch-screen, would you? If it doesn't appeal, look elsewhere for a solution that does or embrace the features that make it different.
 
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Nismo said:
The first Kinect I can understand that as it was an afterthought. The new Kinect is core to the console from the ground-up though, it was fundamental in the OS design. It's a damn shame the work that has been put into this and other features has been undermined, and effectively, crocked.

You wouldn't buy a Wii U whilst saying you don't care about the touch-screen, would you? If it doesn't appeal, look elsewhere for a solution that does.
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Comparing anything with the Wii-U is really bad example right now lol.
 
Nismo said:
The first Kinect I can understand that as it was an afterthought. The new Kinect is built into the console from the ground-up though, it was fundamental in the OS design.

You wouldn't buy a Wii U whilst saying you don't care about the touch-screen, would you? If it doesn't appeal, look elsewhere.
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A camera and a touch screen pad are a bit different though. Just because the xbox is built with the kinect in mind doesn't mean everybody who doesn't want it wears a tin hat and I can understand why people are sceptical about it. We have seen a lot of gimmicks in the past few years with the wii, cameras etc... and whilst they sold well to start with, I don't know anybody who uses them often.

I'm not saying I won't use the kinect, because I will. I will see how new features are and I'm sure my daughter will use it. I can just understand how 'non tin foil hat' people will also not be interested in the kinect.
 
Nismo said:
The first Kinect I can understand that as it was an afterthought. The new Kinect is core to the console from the ground-up though, it was fundamental in the OS design. It's a damn shame the work that has been put into this and other features has been undermined, and effectively, crocked.

You wouldn't buy a Wii U whilst saying you don't care about the touch-screen, would you? If it doesn't appeal, look elsewhere for a solution that does or embrace the features that make it different.
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Most people like me have no interest what so ever in Motion gaming. Just give us a controller and we are happy.
 
XeNoN89 said:
I'm going to, but my point is that there are lots of Xbox gamers who also have no interest in Kinect.:)
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I have no interest in Kinect centric games, however its all the other stuff..like in certain games if you cough that would bring attention to you in quiet scenes etc...all these kinda of details the Kinect is going to greatly enhance gameplay.
 
Xbox One Kinect necessity dumped

In other Xbox One news Microsoft Chief Product Officer Marc Whitten has said that while all Xbox One console packages will include the new Kinect the company has removed the mandatory nature of having the sensor connected.

"Like online, the console will still function if Kinect isn't plugged in, although you won't be able to use any feature or experience that explicitly uses the sensor," explained Whitten to IGN. It is also possible to switch off the Kinect in your settings rather than unplug it. Previously we were told by Microsoft that the Xbox One was a full package that works together, with the Kinect required to be connected "in all cases".
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Not sure if a good or bad thing tbh. Seeing as all consoles are being sold with it.
 
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cu3ed said:
I have no interest in Kinect centric games, however its all the other stuff..like in certain games if you cough that would bring attention to you in quiet scenes etc...all these kinda of details the Kinect is going to greatly enhance gameplay.
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it's going to be very frustrating if you have a cold :p

(yes I know it can be disabled)
 
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