Fixed Penalty Disposals

Meridian said:
Again I find myself pointing out: it's only merge-in-turn when there's a sign, in big letters, on an official background, saying "Merge in turn". Only then. Really, only then. In all other circumstances get over as soon as it is safe to do so. Merge-in-turn is NOT the default.
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You are right not the default however it is the recommended thing to do...
https://www.gov.uk/general-rules-all-drivers-riders-103-to-158/multilane-carriageways-133-to-143

Highway Code said:
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You should follow the signs and road markings and get into the lane as directed. In congested road conditions do not change lanes unnecessarily. Merging in turn is recommended but only if safe and appropriate when vehicles are travelling at a very low speed, e.g. when approaching road works or a road traffic incident. It is not recommended at high speed.
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The part I have highlighted is the key point here, moving into a queue of traffic when there is still 100 yards of lane 2 left is unnecessary.
 
Oh how very British, why have two equal length queues with cars merging alternately from lanes 1 and two when you can block up a couple of miles of the road network :p I should probably brush up on my highway code though, I thought wherever you had the alternating curved arrows on the road it was a merge in turn whether there is a sign or not :o

I've had two instances in this scenario (both with retired old farts) one of having half a dozen cars literally go bumper to bumper leaving me looking like a tool in lane 2 the saving grace of this situation was a guy in a beemer leaning out of his window and waving me in front of him. The look on the old codgers faces as I carried on over the hatched markings and took up station in front of the beemer (who got a big thumbs up on my way past) was priceless.

Second occurrence where the OAP woman passenger of the car in front got out of the car and hammered on my window after I'd merged yelling "Where are you rushing to? Can't you see the traffic?!" She got a response of "On my way to work, to pay your pension now don't touch my car again please." which was greeted with a face like I'd just pooped on her chips.

Anyway, back to the point... I can't be bothered with the hassle now and just sit in lane 1 ASAP like the rest of the sheep.
 
More annoying than the abiguous closed lane merging argument, is people who cut across two lanes of a roundabout because they are about to miss thier exit, rather than simply go round again..
 
SilverTongue said:
The part I have highlighted is the key point here, moving into a queue of traffic when there is still 100 yards of lane 2 left is unnecessary.
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You may find this section is talking about people weaving in and out of lanes when traffic is heavy.
 
I wonder if these traffic FPNs can be issued via CCTV. Nice job there, have a traffic cop sat at a desk with a camera on the M[insert] and ping off FPNs at all the retard drivers with video evidence in support :p
 
They need £500 fines for retards who indicate left on a roundabout but are actually going right or even the whole way round, I see it so often it makes me mad, normally BMW or stupid range rover drivers round here
 
MrMoonX said:
They need £500 fines for retards who indicate left on a roundabout but are actually going right or even the whole way round, I see it so often it makes me mad, normally BMW or stupid range rover drivers round here
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Surely this is the other way round? See so many people indicating right when they are exiting the roundabout. I'd rather people didn't indicate at all then get it wrong.
 
Trifid said:
Surely this is the other way round? See so many people indicating right when they are exiting the roundabout. I'd rather people didn't indicate at all then get it wrong.
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^ This.

I ignore which indicator (if any) is on and look at which way the car is pointing/heading instead. It helps having a car that can launch quite quickly. This lets you get out of everyone's way before they even realise which exit they want. :D
 
SilverTongue said:
Not really...at a marked approach use the lane that marks your exit, for an unmarked approach left hand lane for any exit before 12 o'clock, right hand lane for anything beyond 12 o'clock, simple really...
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With that you assume all roundabouts are well marked in advance. A pretty central roundabout in bristol has two lanes going into three for the roundabout, with the original outside lane becoming lanes 2 and 3, and the inside lane becoming lane 1. Lane one is left only, and is not clearly marked until you are usually stuck in the lane due to traffic.
 
MrMoonX said:
They need £500 fines for retards who indicate left on a roundabout but are actually going right or even the whole way round, I see it so often it makes me mad, normally BMW or stupid range rover drivers round here
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GFs dad has a really weird habit, when in a 2 lane roundabout and wishing to go straight on he will stay in the left lane but indicate right, then switch to left indication when passing the first exit :confused:

Hxc said:
With that you assume all roundabouts are well marked in advance. A pretty central roundabout in bristol has two lanes going into three for the roundabout, with the original outside lane becoming lanes 2 and 3, and the inside lane becoming lane 1. Lane one is left only, and is not clearly marked until you are usually stuck in the lane due to traffic.
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Agree with this point, when driving in places I'm unfamiliar with it can be very easy to end up in the wrong lane due to very late markings, it's then near impossible to correct yourself due to heavy traffic.
 
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Fine the retards who drift into lane 2 as you're whizzing past everyone in lane 1 at lane closures.

****wits.


Havana_UK said:
Good news! Already a punishable offence on the continent and the motorways are much more pleasant to drive on as a result because lane discipline is so much better.
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Having driven through Germany 4 times in as many weeks, I can safely say that it's getting worse. It's not at UK levels to be fair, but it's significantly worse than 10-15 years ago. Although holiday traffic makes a difference.

I now only travel through Germany at night :p
 
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While we're on the subject of roundabouts... One of the most common (and dangerous) manoeuvres that I see is people entering in the left-hand lane who effectively drive in a straight line from their entrance to their exit when they're going straight on. If you're in the right lane, turning right, and you pull onto the roundabout at the same time as them this means that they cut right across you.
 
BillTheButcher said:
While we're on the subject of roundabouts... One of the most common (and dangerous) manoeuvres that I see is people entering in the left-hand lane who effectively drive in a straight line from their entrance to their exit when they're going straight on. If you're in the right lane, turning right, and you pull onto the roundabout at the same time as them this means that they cut right across you.
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Or the people who are turning right but decide to do so from the left lane, when you're in the (correctly marked) right/centre lane going straight on...
 
Out of interest, is there anything technically wrong with going in the right lane, and going all the way around the roundabout in order to go straight on? I'm aware it's probably not 'recommended' but is there any sort of law that it violates?
 
Hxc said:
Out of interest, is there anything technically wrong with going in the right lane, and going all the way around the roundabout in order to go straight on? I'm aware it's probably not 'recommended' but is there any sort of law that it violates?
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I would imagine that as long as you use the proper observation and signalling when changing to the correct lane for your exit, it's perfectly acceptable to do so...
 
BillTheButcher said:
While we're on the subject of roundabouts... One of the most common (and dangerous) manoeuvres that I see is people entering in the left-hand lane who effectively drive in a straight line from their entrance to their exit when they're going straight on. If you're in the right lane, turning right, and you pull onto the roundabout at the same time as them this means that they cut right across you.
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I agree it's common, but it's only dangerous, reckless, inconsiderate or impolite if there's someone in the right-hand lane. Otherwise, it's technically a far safer way to tackle a roundabout and something I always do unless there's a vehicle in the right-hand lane.
 
Haggisman said:
I would imagine that as long as you use the proper observation and signalling when changing to the correct lane for your exit, it's perfectly acceptable to do so...
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As I thought. It can save a lot of time at some roundabouts in Bristol, so I'm somewhat inclined to do it...
 
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