New build, help/advise buying next month

jamieking1990 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:07

that pre order price ends on the 30th.... before I can place my order then it goes up by £100....... that is a lot more. however i have changed it on my order now

jamieking1990 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:09

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:12

It may not go up. The new AMD GPUs are coming out in October, so I don't see the 7970s rising.

Potty27 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:13

jamieking1990 said:
this I take it is very good in your opinions, may I ask why?

It is good, but probably not really needed with a single 1080p currently, I personally would go with the 2GB 670, as it is a saving of over £60 and should be quieter under load. Depends what you want to spend really.

I still think a £55 60GB SSD is a poor choice/waste, as is the WD Black at £77.

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:13

Ignore Puppy, the 7970 is worth every penny.

Though he's right about the WD Black.

edit: Puppy? Potty too.

jamieking1990 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:16

teppic said:
It may not go up. The new AMD GPUs are coming out in October, so I don't see the 7970s rising.

I assumed this would be a pre order price

jamieking1990 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:18

teppic said:
Ignore Puppy, the 7970 is worth every penny.

Though he's right about the WD Black.

edit: Puppy? Potty too.

why is that? I was under the impression it was a very good hard drive....... suggest me then people and please explain why you would change it ^_^

also LOL puppy :3

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:20

It's a very good hard drive, but these days it's *far* better to get an SSD for your OS and apps, and everything else on a regular HDD. So I'd get a 120GB SSD and a regular HDD.

Potty27 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:24

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200-5.html

No doubt updated drivers will have improved things for the 7970, but for me it's not worth the extra £62, especially as I'd want something as quiet as possible.

The 670 is fine for a single 1080p screen to be honest.

In terms of pros and cons and price, I would say they are about equal, so depends how much the OP wants to spend mainly.

Potty27 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:24

teppic said:
So I'd get a 120GB SSD and a regular HDD.

Your agreeing with Puppy?

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:25

That's extremely out of date! And it's on the reference 7970, not the 7970 GE. The 670 is in no way equal to a 7970.

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:25

Potty27 said:
Your agreeing with Puppy?

It didn't last

jamieking1990 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:25

teppic said:
It's a very good hard drive, but these days it's *far* better to get an SSD for your OS and apps, and everything else on a regular HDD. So I'd get a 120GB SSD and a regular HDD.

the only reason I would need an SSD for anything other than booting the OS very fast is for compiling and testing large complex programs in visual studio.

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:27

670 vs 7970 on more recent drivers (and even these underestimate the 7970, and doesn't take into consideration the high OC possible):

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/830?vs=768

Potty27 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:28

teppic said:
That's extremely out of date! And it's on the reference 7970, not the 7970 GE. The 670 is in no way equal to a 7970.

Read my post

I'm not saying it is equal, but it shows how capable the 670 is.

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:29

jamieking1990 said:
the only reason I would need an SSD for anything other than booting the OS very fast is for compiling and testing large complex programs in visual studio.

If you're not storing any apps on the hard drive, there's no real benefit to getting a faster hard drive, as the difference is small.

jamieking1990 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:29

Potty27 said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-review,3200-5.html

No doubt updated drivers will have improved things for the 7970, but for me it's not worth the extra £62, especially as I'd want something as quiet as possible.

The 670 is fine for a single 1080p screen to be honest.

In terms of pros and cons and price, I would say they are about equal, so depends how much the OP wants to spend mainly.

Actually that is a big issue with the ATI cards for me, they scream like a bat being castrated by having them bitten off.

so why the 670 over the 760?

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:31

Potty27 said:
Read my post

I'm not saying it is equal, but it shows how capable the 670 is.

The 7970 is in a different class, and it has 3GB/384bit memory. And it'll come with 3-4 games. The 670's not worth looking at if you can afford a 7970.

jamieking1990 · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:32

teppic said:
670 vs 7970 on more recent drivers (and even these underestimate the 7970, and doesn't take into consideration the high OC possible):

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/830?vs=768

actually is uses 120w more.......... that is a hell of a lot more power consumption

teppic · 17 Aug 2013 at 23:33

jamieking1990 said:
Actually that is a big issue with the ATI cards for me, they scream like a bat being castrated by having them bitten off.

so why the 670 over the 760?

The 7970 isn't noisy. Cheap and nasty fans may be, but the MSI card has a high end quiet cooler.

The 760 is a slightly crippled version of the 670, basically the same card otherwise.