Anyone able to recommend me a good 26-28" TV?

Psycho Sonny · 19 Aug 2013 at 15:28

NeilFawcett said:
Hence I'm hoping for maybe first hand opinion. Yes, I got XXXXX and it's fine/bad sort of thing

go to avforums, the info you require is not available here

Caged · 19 Aug 2013 at 15:29

In all seriousness though, if you can find a Freeview HD receiver where the audio output is controlled by the remote control, you'd do a lot worse than a Dell 24" UltraSharp and the AX510 soundbar that clips neatly underneath it. Full HD IPS panel, swivel stand etc.

Banzai_Joe · 19 Aug 2013 at 15:35

Ok, get the 26-27" out of your head, you'll be very hard pushed to find a set of sizes other than 25, 28 or 32.
The sound is going to be every subjective, so go test some yourself.
Hannspree actually do some decent 1080p TV's. I have three 25" ST251 sets and the sound is good. But they will have been superceded now as they are 3 years old, but still very good. Vertical viewing angle not great though.

Caged · 19 Aug 2013 at 15:43

Did whoever made your current 20" make others in the range? Might be eBay time.

TheVoice · 19 Aug 2013 at 16:20

Banzai_Joe said:
Ok, get the 26-27" out of your head, you'll be very hard pushed to find a set of sizes other than 25, 28 or 32.
The sound is going to be every subjective, so go test some yourself.
Hannspree actually do some decent 1080p TV's. I have three 25" ST251 sets and the sound is good. But they will have been superceded now as they are 3 years old, but still very good. Vertical viewing angle not great though.

26" TVs are still available, although looking on Richer Sounds it seems they're being surpassed by 27". I've never seen any 28" LCD TVs.

Caged said:
In all seriousness though, if you can find a Freeview HD receiver where the audio output is controlled by the remote control, you'd do a lot worse than a Dell 24" UltraSharp and the AX510 soundbar that clips neatly underneath it. Full HD IPS panel, swivel stand etc.

Far more expensive than a proper TV though, smaller and you can't even turn it on/off with the remote!
Edit: Actually I'm wrong there, it'd just turn on/off when there's a signal received.

Banzai_Joe · 19 Aug 2013 at 16:39

TheVoice said:
26" TVs are still available, although looking on Richer Sounds it seems they're being surpassed by 27". I've never seen any 28" LCD TVs.

By jingo, you're right sir!
Must have been plasmas i was thinking of then.

TALON1973 · 19 Aug 2013 at 17:13

theres this :-

LG 27-inch Widescreen Full HD 1080p with Built-in Wi-Fi LED Smart TV

http://www.amazon.co.uk/LG-27-inch-...1376928551&sr=1-1&keywords=27+inch+tv+full+hd

NeilF · 19 Aug 2013 at 17:19

TheVoice said:
26" TVs are still available, although looking on Richer Sounds it seems they're being surpassed by 27". I've never seen any 28" LCD TVs.

26-27" is fine...

28"? - Look at Samsung UE28F4000AWXXU Seems ideal , but shame not full 1080p.

TALON1973 · 19 Aug 2013 at 17:28

its cheaper again on another site .. but cant link as it seems its a competitor

it's listed as £287

27" 27MS53V Smart LED IPS Full HD TV

- Personal Smart TV
- IPS Monitor
- FULL HD
- Resolution 1920 x 1080
- Aspect Ratio 16:9
- Brightness (cd/m2) 250

NeilF · 19 Aug 2013 at 17:30

TALON1973 said:
theres this :-

LG 27-inch Widescreen Full HD 1080p with Built-in Wi-Fi LED Smart TV

That's the LG MS53 which I've got on my radar.

My concern over that is it may be more of a monitor than a TV, and I'd be paying a lot of functions (eg: wireless) I just won't be interested in.

But I'll try and go and see/listen to one.

NeilF · 19 Aug 2013 at 17:42

TALON1973 said:
its cheaper again on another site .. but cant link as it seems its a competitor

it's listed as £287

27" 27MS53V Smart LED IPS Full HD TV

- Personal Smart TV
- IPS Monitor
- FULL HD
- Resolution 1920 x 1080
- Aspect Ratio 16:9
- Brightness (cd/m2) 250

Yeh, as I said though, my fear about that is it's more of a monitor than a TV and has none of the processing a regular tv would. eg: Look at the "LG 26" LN450B" and note all the picture processing it has mentioned, all aimed at making regular TV look better. I suspect the 27MS53V doesn't have it.

Caged · 19 Aug 2013 at 17:58

I think on LGs website they are even classed as TV monitors.

http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-monitors - Yup

NeilF · 19 Aug 2013 at 18:17

Caged said:
I think on LGs website they are even classed as TV monitors.

http://www.lg.com/uk/tv-monitors - Yup

Indeed, because of that I'd probably sway more towards a dedicated TV like:-
Samsung UE28F4000AWXXU 28-inch - 720p
Samsung UE22F5000 22-inch - 1080p

If only that 28" unit was 1080p!

TALON1973 · 19 Aug 2013 at 18:46

SAMSUNG LT27B551 Full HD 27" LED TV - £279

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd...ntcmpid=display~RR~TV,+DVD+&+Blu-ray~21248479

NeilF · 19 Aug 2013 at 21:14

TALON1973 said:
SAMSUNG LT27B551 Full HD 27" LED TV - £279

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/tv-dvd...ntcmpid=display~RR~TV,+DVD+&+Blu-ray~21248479

Looks promising, but I think it suffers from the same problem as the previous LG, it's really a monitor trying to be a TV. ie: It doesn't have any of the picture processing a normal/dedicated TV would.

I mean look at this seemingly perfect Samsung from two years ago (that's no longer available) - 27” D5000 Series 5 Full HD LED TV - http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE27D5000NWXXU - Why is there nothing like this anymore from Samsung

Or if this current model was availble in 26" instead of 22" - http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE22F5000AKXXU (sound is only 2x3W

- Could be too weak)

Psycho Sonny · 19 Aug 2013 at 22:01

NeilFawcett said:
Yeh, as I said though, my fear about that is it's more of a monitor than a TV and has none of the processing a regular tv would. eg: Look at the "LG 26" LN450B" and note all the picture processing it has mentioned, all aimed at making regular TV look better. I suspect the 27MS53V doesn't have it.

your clueless.

monitors are better because they have less features, the whole budget goes on the panel and nothing else and the panel is the most important aspect of a tv.

the less processing the more natural the picture which means better PQ.

so it depends on your feeds, if they are high quality inputs the monitor will really shine, if they are crap then the processing comes into play, but then i don't see why you would be bothered about PQ if your inputs are crap.

NeilF · 19 Aug 2013 at 22:21

Psycho Sonny said:
your clueless.

monitors are better because they have less features, the whole budget goes on the panel and nothing else and the panel is the most important aspect of a tv.

the less processing the more natural the picture which means better PQ.

so it depends on your feeds, if they are high quality inputs the monitor will really shine, if they are crap then the processing comes into play, but then i don't see why you would be bothered about PQ if your inputs are crap.

Sigh... Why the attitude?

Over half of what we watch is standard digital broadcast, so I'd want that to look as good as possible.

Most of the rest of the stuff we watch is through a scart lead showing a digisender Sky image.

And least of all will be DVD/bluray films.

So a good natural TV image is the most important to us.

If you can explain why trying to steer towards a dedicated TV with all its dedicated picture processing, and away from a monitor with a tuner is "clueless", please do...

Psycho Sonny · 20 Aug 2013 at 03:12

for all the same reasons i have everything turned off on my GT50.

i have the light sensor off, dynamic contrast off, IFC off, vivid colour off, P-NR off, clear cinema off, overscan off, etc.

more processing = less natural picture

Banzai_Joe · 20 Aug 2013 at 08:33

NeilFawcett said:
Most of the rest of the stuff we watch is through a scart lead showing a digisender Sky image.

Hang on a mo.....you're watching TV through scart?

If so why do you want a 1080p TV with processing excellence when you're using pre-digital technology to watch an SD feed?

Unless i've missed something here.

I can't comment on PS's attitude, but you seem to be wanting something a porsche (that you'll only ever drive as punto speeds), on a budget.
You're also being uber fussy about your speakers. And has been said more than a few times, you'll not get great speakers on any flat panel within your budget. But you're only in a small room aren't you? (hence the small screen req). So you need to go to as shop that sounds like and indian meal and try out the relevant sized TV's. Get them to throw SD and HD down it. The shop near me is properly setup for TV demo's, it's really good.

Personally after looking at TALON1973's suggestion of the LG, i'd quite like one of those. IPS panel for much better viewing experience, wifi, smart tv, browser. Good deal if you ask me.
You rarely go wrong with LG panels, or Samsungs TV's as a whole.

NeilF · 20 Aug 2013 at 09:34

Psycho Sonny said:
for all the same reasons i have everything turned off on my GT50.

i have the light sensor off, dynamic contrast off, IFC off, vivid colour off, P-NR off, clear cinema off, overscan off, etc.

more processing = less natural picture

Fair comment. That said, on my GT40 I have all stuff turned off for 1080p feeds (eg: bluray), but I do have a bit of stuff on for other feeds.

My concern is how well those "monitors" would cope with not 1080p feeds, which is what I'll be watching the majority of the time (Freeview & sky over scart). 1080p will be the minority of viewing.