**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

I think it's inevitable now that a non kinect bundle will come along not too long after launch to drag that price down to PS4 levels or lower. They are backing down on every thing and clearly will get battered on sales in the first few months.

As I heard the other day I'm not sure if it's a good thing or it just makes them look like they don't have a clue which direction they should be heading. As someone who really has no interest in kinect at all, it's great it's no longer needed to be plugged in but now without doubt you are spending an extra £££ on something you don't even want.

The gamble will be how long I have to wait for than kinectless bundle.

I'd be very surprised if that ever happens, tey have stated that Kinect is xbox one, like cars with engines, i comes with it and that's that, I know they've changed some stuff, but I doubt a kinectless bundle will happen.
 
Not necessarily news but it's interesting to hear pre orders are starting to get limited. Even if you believe the rumours that MS has reduced it's 2013 ship numbers from 7m to 6.2m that's a hell of a lot of Xbox Ones.

UK video games retailer GAME has stopped accepting pre-orders for the Day One Edition of the Xbox One.

“Unfortunately, we have now reached our limit for Xbox One Day One Edition console pre-orders,” an update on GAME’s website reads. “The standard edition console is still available to order, although we can no longer guarantee you will receive yours on launch day."As soon as we can confirm when the standard edition is available we’ll let you all know.”

Online retailer ShopTo has also emailed its customer base warning that it now has limited quantities remaining of the Day One bundle
It'll be interesting to see if this was based on pre allocation units before the additional territories were cut for launch and if that means more will come available for pre order.

Always a little hard to tell as since Apple started the trend where companies try to walk a balanced line between as many guaranteed launch sales as possible and "running out" to drive demand and headlines.
 
I'd be surprised too. Shame, as I don't even want one.
I suppose the thing is if you want FIFA the Kinect is only costing you ~£30 in effect and the voice stuff along with the possibility of future head tracking, bio feedback (yes, his heart rate/blood flow in the face suggests he's actually stressed/scared, chuck another Zombie at him, or learning which aspects of a game you seem to enjoy or hate to fine tune future "levels" dynamically, I'm think L4D3 type stuff here :) ) and voice commands in games etc might be fun.
 
I'd be very surprised if that ever happens, tey have stated that Kinect is xbox one, like cars with engines, i comes with it and that's that, I know they've changed some stuff, but I doubt a kinectless bundle will happen.

It was kinect when it was going to have to be connected and people where going to have to accept it. Now it doesn't you are sending the message that the higher price is due to this peripheral most of us don't even want. When the sales figures are in for Xmas and they want a post xmas price cut the thing that will get cut to being the price potentially as low or lower to the PS4 will be kinect. If a kinect bundle isn't available by the summer I will send you a 200g bar of Fruit and Nut ;)
 
Id say Christmas next year, summers too early especially with all the country specific launches, though it will all be driven by sales-to-date when it happens - being able to disconnect it does speaks volumes how 'integral' Kinect is, MS really shouldnt have allowed that...

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It was kinect when it was going to have to be connected and people where going to have to accept it. Now it doesn't you are sending the message that the higher price is due to this peripheral most of us don't even want. When the sales figures are in for Xmas and they want a post xmas price cut the thing that will get cut to being the price potentially as low or lower to the PS4 will be kinect. If a kinect bundle isn't available by the summer I will send you a 200g bar of Fruit and Nut ;)

I dont like Fruit and Nut but a normal Dairy Milk will do :)
 
It was kinect when it was going to have to be connected and people where going to have to accept it. Now it doesn't you are sending the message that the higher price is due to this peripheral most of us don't even want. When the sales figures are in for Xmas and they want a post xmas price cut the thing that will get cut to being the price potentially as low or lower to the PS4 will be kinect. If a kinect bundle isn't available by the summer I will send you a 200g bar of Fruit and Nut ;)

Accepted and if a kinectless SKU is available by summer I'll give you a bar of 200g Bournville*. :p

Or Fruit and Nut too
 
What's the point in offering second hand digital games and new digital? Who's gonna buy new?

Some has to buy new, there's still only 1:1 ratio.
You can not have 10million second hand buyers and only 1 million brand new buyers.

This needs to happen, especially as EU has already ruled digital is the same as physical, so it's only a matter if time till someone takes it to court and forces the publishers hands.
 
being able to disconnect it does speaks volumes how 'integral' Kinect is, MS really shouldnt have allowed that...

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I'm not so sure about that. I think the real reason for them allowing it to be disconnected was that they realised that if the kinect broke (fell off the tv for example) then the xbox wouldn't work until you bought a replacement and that would **** people off.
I really don't think its a sign to a future kinectless sku
 
Also has anyone seen any news on what kind of prices digital games will be on the marketplace when the Xbox One launches? Or do we just have to go off what the prices are like now?
I think this will be a big factor in whether people will go digital or not come next-gen
 
I'm not so sure about that. I think the real reason for them allowing it to be disconnected was that they realised that if the kinect broke (fell off the tv for example) then the xbox wouldn't work until you bought a replacement and that would **** people off.
I really don't think its a sign to a future kinectless sku
Are we really supposed to believe in the years of R&D MS put in to the XO, that not one person asked the question 'Well what happens if Kinect breaks?'. If thats really a possibility, do you feel safe spending money on a product that the manufacturer is either that stupid or happy with the answer 'Thats ok XO wont work til they get it replaced. High five! Everyone for Frappuccinos?'

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hey companies do very stupid things when developing new products. They often overlook the most simple of problems when concentrating on trying to create something new. That could have easily happened but at least now they've fixed it
 
Pretty sure i've seen a article from a M$ exec saying there not looking into making a kinectless-bundle, if i was to go out and buy the console that came with a kinnect i would hope they wouldnt make a kinnect-less bundle simply because it was mandatory at the time of purchasing it and it would give less intension for devlopers to use the tech again, they should just stick it out now, whats done is done.
 
hey companies do very stupid things when developing new products. They often overlook the most simple of problems when concentrating on trying to create something new. That could have easily happened but at least now they've fixed it
Mind giving an example of such a product? To be fair Ill only ask you for ones that cost only a hundred million dollars to R&D, thats a fraction what the XO seemed to have cost to develop and what they spent just on the controller...

EDIT: Im sorry, Im just aghast that there are people out there that actually think MS didnt have a process to deal with a broken Kinect while it was still a mandatory connection and that it took the public to alert them to the fact.

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Mind giving an example of such a product? To be fair Ill only ask you for ones that cost only a hundred million dollars to R&D, thats a fraction what the XO seemed to have cost to develop and what they spent just on the controller...
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Well off the top of my hand I can think of a rather poignant one that being the RROD on the original Xbox 360. Its not so hard to think the same company would again overlook simple flaws.
i'm sure theres many other products as well but that one seemed relevent
 
Well off the top of my hand I can think of a rather poignant one that being the RROD on the original Xbox 360. Its not so hard to think the same company would again overlook simple flaws.
i'm sure theres many other products as well but that one seemed relevent

thats completely different to somebody designing a product that will refuse to function without a peripheral plugged in.
 
Well off the top of my hand I can think of a rather poignant one that being the RROD on the original Xbox 360. Its not so hard to think the same company would again overlook simple flaws.
i'm sure theres many other products as well but that one seemed relevent
Not really, ones a manufacturing flaw, the others a design. But fair point, its not unreasonable to think MS of being as incompetent again, Ill give you that. Comes back to my original point though...
I think the removal was more likely a reaction to the whining tin hat brigade more than anything else.
Oh I know, just actually surprised that people think MS didnt already have that situation already covered before they did the 180 on mandatory Kinect.

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thats completely different to somebody designing a product that will refuse to function without a peripheral plugged in.
if you want an example of a peripheral didn't 1 of the WiiU SKu's come without a sensor bar?

Oh I know, just actually surprised that people think MS didnt already have that situation already covered before they did the 180 on mandatory Kinect.

and how is it you think they had it covered? they never said anything.
 
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