Win8 Tablets

Another ***** up, acer can't even release working tablets.

http://community.acer.com/t5/Tablets/iconia-w511-3g-modem-not-working-on-boot/td-p/73913

Told them to send it back for a replacment and if it does the same get a refund and we'll have to find another suitable tablet. But I can't think of any, the asus vivitab smart doesn't seem to have a 3G option.

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Ever than that they love it and haven't found any other issues, battery life is great, it's responsive, cpthey can do everything they want on it. But £580 and they can't even get 3G working properly.

On top of that it looks like bay trail tablets will be significantly cheaper, but they don't wont to wait till the end of the year. Android/ipad would be compromised system due to no windows program.

As nice as the bulgari tablet looks, I won't be buying anything acer again. Sister had a android acer tablet and that had no end of wifi issues, similar lots of comments on the web and no acer statement at all.
 
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I have an updated factory USB restore stick for the Dell XPS 10. Contains all updates as of today.

anyone who has had to reset knows how much of a pain it is doing the million windows updates.

Let me know if anyone wants me to upload it
 
Martini1991 said:
How you finding the Dell XPS 10?
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There's pros and cons to be honest

I looked at the dell xps 10 and the surface RT

Pros for the surface RT was the touch cover. It's really great, especially with the kick stand and touchpad. However.....the tablet itself is thick and quite heavy. Thicker than I'd want in a tablet to be honest.

The dell on the other hand is super thin and light (where talking ipad 2 thin)....not quite as good build quality though. Screen is fantastic, but the glass does show up fingerprints. Battery life is stunning.

To be honest, nothing touches it for £250. That said, if you are buying the tablet with the expensive keyboard dock, then I would opt for the Surface RT as MS is doing them with free touch covers now. If it's just down on tablet vs tablet, then you can't justify the extra expensive for the surface.

Shame that the keyboard dock is well over £100. If dell sold it for £50 the entire package would be absolutely awesome.

It really is a windows 8 laptop in a tablet case. That in itself though has pros and cons.
 
Disappointing IFA reveals so far.

Asus transformer book has terrible build quality, or at least in these pre production models. And screen is to big at 13.3" I doubt thumbs could easily reach the middle.

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. The CPU options consist of the i3-4010U (1.7GHz), i5-4200U (1.6-2.6GHz), and the i7-4500U (1.8-3.0GHz), with Intel’s HD Graphics 4400 handling graphics duties. Even better, the display is a 13.3” 1080p IPS panel with 10-point capacitive multitouch. ASUS also notes that their display senses a 6mm contact point instead of 9mm, providing greater precision. Memory is listed as “up to 8GB”, which likely means there will be a low-end Core i3 model with 4GB and the higher end models will come with 8GB soldered onboard. Storage is pure SSD, using the NGFF/M.2 standard and supporting 64/128/256GB options.
Other features include a rear 1080p camera and front 720p camera Connectivity consists of 802.11n (ASUS doesn’t mention whether it’s dual-band or not, so I’m guessing not), USB 3.0, micro-HDMI 1.4, microSD, and 3.5mm headphone/mic. The dock adds an additional micro-USB 3.0 port.
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Sony vaio tap 11 looks absolutely stunning. Perfect screen size at 11.6" IMO. This is the size I really want. However they've gone for size and weight, rumours are battery life is just 5hrs as a result, although no official word on battery life. Buit ink kickstand as well, which I think is a great feaure, missing from s many tablets.

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11.6-inch Full HD resolution screen, weighs 780g and is 9.9mm thick. It will come in a variety of specs with up to 4GB of RAM, up to 512GB SSD storage and ultra-low voltage Intel Core processors.
optional built-in 3G. There's an 8-megapixel rear camera with auto-focus, and unspecified front-facing camera. Bluetooth 4.0 and 802.11n Wi-Fi is built-in, as is NFC and GPS
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No 4g option? And battery life questionable, other that looks perfect. Keyboard doesn't appear to dock to tablet, so jaunt a lye tooth separate keyboard and stupid rubber covers over many old the ports, which dangle, why or why.

Everyone's saying you get 2hrs more life out of haswell with normal use over 3rd gen, which is fantastic and what I expected. So taking most tablets from around 5hrs to 7hrs. Which is great.

Toshiba Encona
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The tablet boasts a 8" wide-angle display with a 1,280 x 800 resolution.

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The Encore comes with 32GB of in-built storage, with the option of adding another 32GB through the microSD slot. There’s also 2GB of RAM, an 8-megapixel rear camera, plus micro HDMI and micro USB 2.0 slots. The tablet weighs 480g and is 10.7mm thick – making it both lighter and slimmer than the Iconia W3.
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Im in the market for a W8 pro tablet, but haven't really seen anything to excite me yet. Im hoping that they are just waiting for 8.1, and then there will be a whole new influx of clever designs as the thing holding tablets back is the whole enterprise market.
We will bulk buy tablets for staff, but we will not touch RT ever, even if they give it away, and current gen either are underpowered, low res, or poor battery.
As a business we are actually big W8 fans for tablets or phones, the UI is really well thought out, sharepoint and Lync/office 365 integration have us looking forward to opportunities to change the way we do things, but at the moment, the OS is ahead of the current hardware, we are hoping that the 2nd gen hardware lives upto the promise of the OS
 
You'd have thought they'd have shown a few things at IFA, that Encore might be okay.

When 8.1 launches officially, I'll be disappointed to not see an influx of tablets.

Why has the Windows 8 tablet movement been horrific :p?
 
Martini1991 said:
Why has the Windows 8 tablet movement been horrific :p?
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Outdated OEMs struggling with the concept of mobile devices taking over the world and instead blaming win8 for the fall in sales, despite analysts saying otherwise and doesn't explain apple and androids strong market positions.
They really are archaic and resistant to change.
These tablets are better than the first offering, but they still aren't ideal.

The CEOs need to be sacked. I can see why companies missed the boat, but now 3 years + on, how they don't understand what's happening is beyond me. I mean even the forecasts say tablets will outsell desktop/laptops/notebooks in q4 this year for the first time ever and will continue to grow, whilst desktops/laptops eat will continue to decline, and expected to decline till at earliest 2015.
 
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I'm really tempted to buy a Surface Pro, i've wanted one since they first announced it.

The general consensus from reviews seems to be that it's not quite there, ie battery life etc. But it's just so nice looking, and full PC power in tablet form is so alluring!

What do you guys think of it?
 
Wait for haswell version ~2hrs more battery life from haswell at least on other tablets/ultra books. Which to me is more than an acceptable run time for something so powerful.
It's jus a matter of when. If they don't announce it at win8.1 launch try ill be disappointed.
 
I've been looking at the Surface Pro too. Thing I can't decide is whether to wait for Haswell, which could be more expensive anyway, or go for the current one, which has just been dropped by £80.

Any ideas if there is likely to be other major changes with the next model? I can live with the current battery life of around 5hrs.

Thing with all the tablets and Ultrabooks, is why is 8Gb RAM so difficult to get?!
 
The Encore is the first Win8 device to get my attention. Price has a lot to do with it, obviously, but I just want a simple tablet to run simple WINDOWS software, not RT pretendware.

I'd like to see a larger version, ideally, but this might do the job I want. I'll wait for reviews first, but it's nice to finally be tempted by something! A Pro2 would be nice if it was half the price of the Pro and needed 100% fewer fans (the iPad has spoiled me in that respect; silent computing is what tablets are all about), but that's never going to happen.

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Thing with all the tablets and Ultrabooks, is why is 8Gb RAM so difficult to get?!
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To be fair, my Win7 64-bit desktop rarely manages to use 3GB, no matter what I throw at it, and most of its 8GB sits around laughing at me for wasting money. 8GB is nice to have for the theoretical elbow room, but IME (running a system monitor all the time) it's all theoretical.
 
There's already 10" atom tablets out and many more to come.

Why on earth would a pro be half the price, it's top range components, just like ultra books and is in no way comparable to an iPad. And yes silent tablets will happen, infact HP have already said they will releases a fanless haswell soon. And broadwell (Intels next chip after haswell) is designed to be fanless on the low end versions. Not that the pro is in anyway loud or hot and has a very sensible fan/vent configuration.

Rt is absolutely fine if you just want an iPad replacement, if it wasn't for wanting to play computer games, I would be getting an rt. cheap, office included etc.
 
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Andrew_McP said:
I laughed until I stopped.
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Great discussion.
So what is wrong with RT? You do realise 99% of people who runs. Tablet do not use traditional software on it, as neither apple or android run that.
so yes RT is absolutely fine as an android/iOS replacement. It alsoincludes office for free which is a good deal.
 
RT isn't absolutely fine as an Android/iOS replacement until it can reach parity with them.
Which it doesn't.

I like RT, and have a Surface RT, which I've been using more and more, but it's still marred by the poor performance and lack of apps that I actually want.

The performance issues are an easy fix, they just release better specced devices (Which we should see happen on October), but then you've got to completely ignore that there's like 2 manufacturers for Windows RT now (Dell, and Microsoft, and IF Nokia release a tablet, they're just Microsoft really now, so 2 vendors) which gives a disgraceful amount of available windows RT tablets.

The app situation still hasn't improved that much, all the decent apps (Netflix etc) have been there for ages already.

The Office free is kinda moot, as you need to get a keyboard for the devices, which 9/10 times is going to be the overpriced docks, by which time you may's well have just gotten an X86 ME400C at 300 quid, or a Laptop.
 
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Neither of those have much to do with RT, apps are coming, that's an issue with all e8 ATM. Depends what you need, I'm only missing sky go and don't hold any hope.
Performance is hardware, which is sorted on the new tablets, much higher res screens, better chips..
So yeah RT is absolutely fine, the fact it doesn't run normal software is not an issue for most people.
 
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