Tipping

I have never seen a tipping screen on a card machine, is it before of after you enter your pin?

Before. You'll get an "add gratuity?" prompt, if you press yes then you can type in an amount, then you get a total then enter PIN. Not all places do this.
 
When I eat out in a restaurant its exactly that, eating out, an event, I expect to have an enjoyable evening. If the service and the food has made that happen, a tip is left. If theyre miserable and hard work, then no, they wont be tipped.

McDonnalds isn't a restaurant. Its a fast food joint. I don't go to McD for a night out.
 
Never ever tip, society tells you too, **** society!

I'm not so sure - a lot of people I know have never, and will never tip. I don't think society in this country is hell bent on leaving tips. There's no generally accepted etiquette.

Sounds like you're just tight :)
 
The Japanese finds tipping is an insult.QUOTE]

while this certainly used to be the case it no longer seems to stop them accepting the tip where 20 years ago they would have refused it. It seems to me that American's have basically gone round the world and extended their silly tipping system regardless of local customs which has now left us in this ridiculous situation where certain workers seem tothink tips are a right not a perk for going above and beyond.

We once left a rubish tip (circa 1%) in a restuarant and the waiter very politely asked why so he could do better in future he seemed somewhat shocked when I said he would have got a better tip if we hadn't waited 15 minutes for our drinks and if all the deserts especially the birthday girls had come out at the same time not spread over 10 minutes with hers comming last!
 
I'm not so sure - a lot of people I know have never, and will never tip. I don't think society in this country is hell bent on leaving tips. There's no generally accepted etiquette.

Sounds like you're just tight :)

I'm the sort of person that if the bill already has the x% added, to deduct that % and pay it without the tip.

I am tight but I still don't believe in tipping just because its the 'norm'...
 
Sure, if you consider being served by a miserable, emotionless group of individuals, providing non-food to be a similar experience to a Michelin star restaurant, then by all means, tip away.

But they are still providing a service.

Why do you tip? because you had quality meal? surely if you were going to a Michelin starred restaurant that is exactly what you would expect and the cost of eating there has been priced to compensate that.
 
But they are still providing a service.

Why do you tip? because you had quality meal? surely if you were going to a Michelin starred restaurant that is exactly what you would expect and the cost of eating there has been priced to compensate that.

I tip because I had a good/very good "experience".

McDonalds is not an experience in the same vein.
 
I'm the sort of person that if the bill already has the x% added, to deduct that % and pay it without the tip.

I am tight but I still don't believe in tipping just because its the 'norm'...

I hate that too, tipping is meant for when you feel that the service was exceptionally good, it is not mandatory.
 
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