Who here is a teacher?

Does anyone really go in to teaching not already knowing the pay, conditions and general media attitude?
 
I have haven't got a clue? About what? In the space 4 of months the teachers at my kids school will have been holiday for a total of 9 weeks. (8 weeks summer holiday, blackberry week)

I don't believe for a second the teachers will be working for the full duration of these holidays.

Wish I had 9 weeks off a year.
 
wesley said:
teacher is not a job, its a life style.

if you are happy with your life style right now then teacher is not for you
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A lifestyle?

The people who need to work 12hr+ shifts day or night, sometimes in violation of the European Work-Time Directive, saving lives or risking their own... THAT is a lifestyle.

Teaching is like many other 8-4/9-5 jobs, just that your customers are children or young adults. We all can bring our work home, and need to, but we just accept this instead of shouting for pity and going on strike!
 
RedvGreen said:
Teaching is like many other 8-4/9-5 jobs, just that your customers are children or young adults. We all can bring our work home, and need to, but we just accept this instead of shouting for pity and going on strike!
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I highly doubt that teachers are striking because they have to work a bit in the evenings.

Probably more to do with constant erosion of their positions, shifting goalposts that often leave them stranded and the removal of benefits that generally offset the highly stressful nature of the profession (in Secondary, anyway, I would say... not so much Primary).

If you were messed around on a consistent basis and watched everything you'd been working hard towards be taken away from you with your dismay meeting only fingers-in-ears "la la la la", you'd probably get mighty angry as well. I know I would.
 
My girlfriend is a primary teacher. She teach year 1 at a private school. She loves it and I have tons of respect for her job as I couldn't do it. I've helped out at school fairs and 'teddy bear picnics' and the kiddos tires me out. She goes to tons of effort for the kids and they're all crazy about her and she loves them. She says it takes her a good 5min walking through the school grounds to her class with all the kids hugging her legs and wanting to walk with her.
 
Both my mum and dad taught, my dad not so much as a full time teacher, but as an 'activities' reacher (outdoor pursuits)

Both of them did jobs before and after and although they say the kids wore them out, as did the behind the scenes rubbish from the government, they had it relatively easy.

My brother went into teaching, he loves to rub the fact that he's off work for pretty much half a year in my face!

I did look at going in for teaching myself, but then realised I bloody hate kids.
 
easyrider said:
Become a teacher then? :D

Instead of moaning...get a degree. Do a PGCE and become a teacher.
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I'm a manager at Nissan UK and i'm on far more money than a teacher. I do 12 hour shifts and 6 day weeks and I just get on with it.

I just know when the teachers go on strike all the teachers and the unions will say how overworked they are. 9 weeks off in 4 months, nah that's not being overworked.
 
Pestilence said:
I highly doubt that teachers are striking because they have to work a bit in the evenings.

Probably more to do with constant erosion of their positions, shifting goalposts that often leave them stranded and the removal of benefits that generally offset the highly stressful nature of the profession (in Secondary, anyway, I would say... not so much Primary).

If you were messed around on a consistent basis and watched everything you'd been working hard towards be taken away from you with your dismay meeting only fingers-in-ears "la la la la", you'd probably get mighty angry as well. I know I would.
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I work in law enforcement, and trust me when I say that we, like many others, get messed around just as much as teachers, if not more. Just because you, a family member, or a friend is a teacher, does not make it unique to teaching.

This is totally like the Kate Middleton media situation where she was the first and only person ever to have a baby.
 
RedvGreen said:
I work in law enforcement, and trust me when I say that we, like many others, get messed around just as much as teachers, if not more. Just because you, a family member, or a friend is a teacher, does not make it unique to teaching.

This is totally like the Kate Middleton media situation where she was the first and only person ever to have a baby.
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Way to jump the gun there. I'm certainly not a teacher -- I could never do it in a million years. I'd probably end up like that one who went mental a few years ago and stoved a kid with a weight.

I also made absolutely zero comment towards it being a unique situation for teachers to be messed around. Not entirely sure where you got that from? I'm merely pointing out that anyone is going to get stressed and angry when messed around persistently in the workplace... almost the opposite of what you're accusing? Why should teachers be expected to just take it? Because they get more holidays than others? That's just race to the bottom mentality, and it's idiotic.

Is it true that employees in law enforcement are forbidden by contract to strike?
 
albert said:
I'm a manager at Nissan UK and i'm on far more money than a teacher. I do 12 hour shifts and 6 day weeks and I just get on with it.

I just know when the teachesay go on strike all the teachers and the unions will say how overworked they are. 9 weeks off in 4 months, nah that's not being overworked.
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9 weeks off in 4 months??? What on earth are you on about.

Teachers here get...

5-6 week summer period to plan, train go on annual holiday with family.
1 week half term in October again for planning and paperwork catch up.
2 week xmax to remove all displays from classrooms, plan for new term, buy equipment for new term wind down a little and be ready for kids agai .
2 weak Easter... Planning and a little time to wind down.

Teachers have to take their holiday time within these weeks. Unfortunately holidays are at their most expensive at these times ;(

In my partners school its frowned upon to take any time off during term time, she doesn't stop even when unwell.

I love it when parents moan about teachers having time off and that its easy. But then those same parents moan and whine on Facebook about how annoying it is having their kids at home and how naughty they are. Moan moan moan.
I sometimes wonder how they would survive for a year with 30 in a class all day. Most of them couldn't but still moan about teachers having it easy in life. Prats the bunch of them I say
 
I guess that not having kids helps with maintaining a more objective view of the plight of those in the teaching profession.

Certainly, those in my office who protest most loudly any time there's a teaching strike and "bloody teachers this, bloody teachers that, ra ra" are those with children, and they openly complain that the big issue is that on this particular upcoming date they're going to have to deal with their own children for the day. Whether that's taking care of last-minute childcare, or simply the fact that it isn't going to be a child-free day. I'll admit it does make me smirk at the sheer display of bloody-minded self absorbance.

I also laughed at one of the news reports last week... I think it was BBC or Channel 4, where they were interviewing parents at the school gates about how they think a strike will affect children's education. One particularly down to earth looking father just shrugged happily and said (to paraphrase), "I don't think it's going to affect their education a great deal, to be totally honest... probably their childcare more than anything!" The knowing smile on that guys face as he consciously avoided conceited bitterness was pleasing.
 
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