Poll: Which Next Gen Console will you buy? - Final version (honest!)

[ps3ud0]

Good idea, just not the company to realise it, Valve have paid their dues and now are reaping the benefits, they had much the same trouble when Steam launched but they stood their ground and now are the ones in an enviable position...

ps3ud0

 

[Davey_Pitch]

As you said vocal few the fact ms did 180 to me so quickly shows that they didn't have full confident in the idea anyway. They have them selves to blame partly they could always add it again later mind

They've already said they will look at it again in the future as I imagine they will with a few policies.

 

[Suarez7]

Some of the policies will work in the future they just need implementing better. It would also help if people better educated themselves on the policies instead of going off what others are screaming or just taking them at face value.

 

[Ryan-3]

Agreed. Most of their policies were aimed towards keeping the games industry 'functional' for many years to come, but they introduced them like they were something from the NSA.

Things I don't want on games consoles are things like; constant connection requirement and no disk tray (certainly not for a number of years yet!)

 

[Adsta]

Lets not also forget MS's absolute fail at explaining it. I kinda got the idea but it really was not presented well at all. And unfortunately with the way the Internet is now well I'm not sure if people are just more stupid or that they have a place to be more vocal.

It was a shame but C'est la vie. Hopefully the idea might come back with better PR behind it !

 

[djkav]

Davey you can add Resogun (PS+) and War Thunder to Drive Club PS+ edition for free launch games to play on PS4

 

[Davey_Pitch]

Davey you can add Resogun (PS+) and War Thunder to Drive Club PS+ edition for free launch games to play on PS4

Added Resogun, can't find info on War Thunder being part of PS+ though.

 

[Metalface Mark]

Added Resogun, can't find info on War Thunder being part of PS+ though.

Its a free to play MMO, pretty sure it doesnt need PS+ though.

 

[blky]

Its a free to play MMO, pretty sure it doesnt need PS+ though.

Its online multiplayer though, so that itself requires PS+ as far as im aware...

 

[XeNoN89]

Its online multiplayer though, so that itself requires PS+ as far as im aware...

Nope, free to play games can be played without PS+

 

[biron_w]

Well it is a great idea, just a shame the vocal few spoiled it for the majority with MS.

It wasn't the family sharing thing that people objected to. It was MS saying that if you bought a physical copy of a game you might be able to trade it in but only at certain shops and only if publishers decide that they will allow you to trade games in.

MS could have left the family sharing thing in quite easily without the stupid DRM policies but they removed it out of spite.

 

[Davey_Pitch]

MS could have left the family sharing thing in quite easily without the stupid DRM policies but they removed it out of spite.

Well the sharing and the DRM were pretty tightly linked to each other so not sure how they could've left the sharing in without some kind of DRM restrictions in place.

 

[biron_w]

Well the sharing and the DRM were pretty tightly linked to each other so not sure how they could've left the sharing in without some kind of DRM restrictions in place.

Obviously they could keep track of each disc so they could have done this - the disc can be installed on whatever consoles the original owner puts it on. As soon as the disc is put into a machine that wasn't registered by the original owner then the licence is removed from the machines it's installed on and the game is no longer playable on those machines.

There was also the fact that MS said there could be a fee for buying a used game. Which would have been ok if it was a low fee but, as we all know, publishers are extremely greedy. So the fee would be something ridiculous. I believe one MS exec said it could be as much as the price of a new game.

Why didn't MS leave the family sharing thing for downloaded games? That would have been fairly easy to implement. Like I said - they could have left the feature in but they just removed it out of spite

 

[TheVoice]

Obviously they could keep track of each disc so they could have done this - the disc can be installed on whatever consoles the original owner puts it on. As soon as the disc is put into a machine that wasn't registered by the original owner then the licence is removed from the machines it's installed on and the game is no longer playable on those machines.

But that means making each disc unique, which would drive up manufacturing costs considerably. It isn't viable really.

 

[Shamikebab]

Obviously they could keep track of each disc so they could have done this - the disc can be installed on whatever consoles the original owner puts it on. As soon as the disc is put into a machine that wasn't registered by the original owner then the licence is removed from the machines it's installed on and the game is no longer playable on those machines.

But that would mean the console had to be always online, which people moaned about?

 

[biron_w]

But that means making each disc unique, which would drive up manufacturing costs considerably. It isn't viable really.

With the DRM that MS were talking about then all discs would have had to be unique.

 

[biron_w]

But that would mean the console had to be always online, which people moaned about?

They could just have it so if you aren't online you can't play games on the family sharing plan. I don't think that's unfair considering you won't have paid for the game in the first place.

 

[TheVoice]

With the DRM that MS were talking about then all discs would have had to be unique.

Didn't they say they'd use a code in the box to 'activate' that game against your account?

 

[Davey_Pitch]

Obviously they could keep track of each disc so they could have done this - the disc can be installed on whatever consoles the original owner puts it on. As soon as the disc is put into a machine that wasn't registered by the original owner then the licence is removed from the machines it's installed on and the game is no longer playable on those machines.

How do you get access to remove the game from the original console if the console is offline? Answer - you can't, so that means you also have to bring back the online check in feature which the vast majority of people hated.

There was also the fact that MS said there could be a fee for buying a used game. Which would have been ok if it was a low fee but, as we all know, publishers are extremely greedy. So the fee would be something ridiculous. I believe one MS exec said it could be as much as the price of a new game.

Assumption, assumption, assumption. As the feature was dropped we won't know how it would have worked, but as always, some people assume the worst.

Why didn't MS leave the family sharing thing for downloaded games? That would have been fairly easy to implement. Like I said - they could have left the feature in but they just removed it out of spite

Erm, because as above, they're allowing the console to be played completely offline. How do you share games if you're completely offline? You can't. It's nowhere near as clear cut and easy as you seem to think it is.

 

[IvanDobskey]

I have a ps4 on preorder although I'm a little worried by the lack of any launch games that really grab my attention.