Muslim Family Offended Over Offer Of Alcohol as Compensation For Being Sold Non-Halal Meat

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A lot of what people refer to as 'Indian restaurants' are indeed Pakistani/Bangladeshi restaurants, and the majority, if not all, use halal meat.

they also serve beer, most of the customers are drunk white people and the slop that gets served up in most of them comes form the same big pot that's been stewing away for a while...
 
I gather this guy complained over the phone? So I'm not surprised the manager didn't twig he was from the religion of permanent offence.
"Yeh yeh, wrong pasty, oops, sorry about that, have a bottle of bubbly on us" (autopilot customer service script).
Had he turned up on the doorstep looking beardy and wearing some nice pyjamas then I reckon the natural confusion would have been averted

I love the sense of entitlement of this guy, not just expecting innocent people to suck up to his sky pixie dietary requirements, but ignores the fact that offering a bottle of plonk is our cultures idea of a gift. When you are in someone's country then it's in very poor taste to take offence at a gift which they would see as being generous.

I feel sorry for the kid though, not only does he have a cheap father who feeds him mouldy old cheese pasties from a microwave, but now he's brought shame on his family by eating dirty infidel food not blessed by the magic sky pixie, he'll have to be stoned to death so as to preserve his family's honour.
 
If only everyone thought similarly.

Steve Hughes does some good stand-up comedy about being offended. I'd link to it, but BBC owns the copyright. It's written to be performed, so it doesn't works so well as text:

Now you have adults going “I was offended, I was offended and I have rights!” Well so what, be offended, nothing happens. You’re an adult - grow up, and deal with it. I was offended! Well, I don’t care! Nothing happens when you’re offended. “I went to the comedy show and the comedian said something about the lord, and I was offended, and when I woke up in the morning, I had leprosy."

Nothing Happens. “I want to live in a democracy but I never want to be offended again.” Well, you’re an idiot.

How do you make a law about offending people? How do you make it an offense to offend people? Being offended is subjective. It has everything to do with you as an individual or a collective, or a group or a society or a community. Your moral conditioning, your religious beliefs. What offends me may not offend you. And you want to make laws about this? I’m offended when I see boy bands for god's sake.

It’s a valid offense, I’m offended. They’re cooperate shills, posing as musicians to further a modeling career and frankly I’m disgusted.
 
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true... though they probably wouldn't bother with ensuring they served halal meat


Not ensuring they served it no, but why would they given the fact the majority of Muslims don't go in pubs?
If they could get the meat cheaper from a halal butcher, I'm pretty sure a lot would buy it.
 
LOL i dont quite understand some of my religious lot, fine it has meat in it. Take it back and get a refund or just throw the ****ing thing out.

No need to go and complain tbh.

Some people are overly aggressive about some things and religion is a likely one. Not always, though. Politics, sports teams...all sorts of things will serve as an excuse to have a go at someone if that's what you want to do.

A coworker of mine is a vegan. Full on, proper vegan. No animal anything, at all. I didn't even know for more than a year. He'll talk about it if he's asked to. He's not hiding it or ashamed of it, he's just making his choices for himself and not for everyone else.

I've met other vegans who will tell you within 30s of meeting you and try to browbeat everyone into veganism, and would force it on everyone if they had to power to do so. They're hugely offended by, well, pretty much everything that isn't them.

Some people are like that. Religion encourages it, but some people are like that anyway, with or without religion.
 
That poor kid going to be judged by Allah in the afterlife all because of the label sticker putting it on the wrong pasty. I hope that guy feels bad tonight.

There's an exemption for unknowingly eating stuff that isn't halal or for knowingly doing so when the only other option is starvation.

At least, that's what the translation/interpretation I read said. I can't read Arabic.
 
I love the sense of entitlement of this guy, not just expecting innocent people to suck up to his sky pixie dietary requirements, but ignores the fact that offering a bottle of plonk is our cultures idea of a gift. When you are in someone's country then it's in very poor taste to take offence at a gift which they would see as being generous.

Who's country is this guy in? Is this not Mr Khan's country too, just as much as it is the gift givers? "Them and us" attitude is not very helpful. Did not realise complaining about being sold something that is the opposite of what it should be is a "sense of entitlement"?

What does this "sky pixies" dietary requirement have to do with misselling a vegetarian pasty that in fact had meat in it?
 
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There's an exemption for unknowingly eating stuff that isn't halal or for knowingly doing so when the only other option is starvation.

At least, that's what the translation/interpretation I read said. I can't read Arabic.

Now now Angilion dont be talking sense in a muslim/islam thread, some of these gd posters in here would be utterly confused as to why and how this exemption came about;).

On a serious note, you are right though. If we eat something un-halal unknowingly then it wont be held against us. But if we continue eating it or drinking it then it will be held against us.

Who's country is this guy in? Is this not Mr Khan's country too, just as much as it is the gift givers? "Them and us" attitude is not very helpful. Did not realise complaining about being sold something that is the opposite of what it should be is a "sense of entitlement"?

What does this "sky pixies" dietary requirement have to do with misselling a vegetarian pasty that in fact had meat in it?

Crater i wouldnt even bother with bitslice tbh, its a waste of time and space trying to engage into a debate with him;)
 
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it is a bit annoying yes when right wing groups use legitimate criticism of religion as a cover for their underlying racism

we then have the ridiculous notion of people being labeled 'Islamophobic' as though its up there with racism, homophobia etc...

Perhaps it isn't legitimate and a simple technicality is used by bigots as a guise to mask their particular underlying "isms". Then use this platform to shout random unrelated hate tirades thinking they won't be seen, as they should be, with the knuckle draggers.
 
Did not realise complaining about being sold something that is the opposite of what it should be is a "sense of entitlement"?
Normal British people don't kick up a fuss over a poxy 19p pasty so personally I reckon he's quite happy not to be regarded as British, this is just another country it seems.
Normal British people weren't actually all that bothered when they found out they had been eating horse instead of beef for years, in fact the sales of horse meat have subsequently gone up.
Expecting normal people to respect his pointless religious choices is something that only Muslims appear to insist on and demand respect for. Sorry, life doesn't work that way, the world does not revolve around the religion of permanent offence, you'll have to wait maybe 20 years before you are the majority then you can do what you want. Hopefully I'll be dead.

What does this "sky pixies" dietary requirement have to do with misselling a vegetarian pasty that in fact had meat in it?
He used it as an excuse to be offended and to be offended on the behalf of other muslims. He's a self entitled clown. It seems muslims really have no conception of just how ridiculous and childish their behaviour appears to Westerners.

Crater i wouldnt even bother with bitslice tbh, its a waste of time and space trying to engage into a debate with him;)
I could say the same about you but I fear I lack the holier than thou attitude - debate or go home to mummy :p
 
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Ooh, the outrage that article has caused on here...

You do all realise that the western world will be embracing Islam sooner or later dont you. All this anti Islam bias will pass on to your children until one day the hate turns to love for one of the generations. To be honest I wouldnt mind the 4 wives bit myself :)
 
If they do not like our customs GO HOME.Trying going over to Arabia and saying how offended you are by having segregated roads and not being allowed near Mecca.Or how offended you are by sheer amount of stupid sharia silly laws.How about the one where touching a muslim sours him and prevents him from going to heaven? If there was ever a religon that insults everyone and makes them feel degraded it is Islam.They should all go back to the craphole that is Arabia and rot in the destitute desert with its corruption.

That is why they are all here right?

That's four lots of nagging :/
But the 72 virgins bit, that's just overkill

Define Virgins though? It may be Thatcher,The Queen or Dame Edna.I really hope it is 72 virgin goats that endlessly go baaa baaa baaa and turn it into hell.
 
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I think muslim hell must be a shelf full of unmarked pasties (full price ones)

Or having to live in Britain, a country full of stupid infidels who annoyingly don't recognise the innate superiority of third world cultures
 
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If they do not like our customs GO HOME.Trying going over to Arabia and saying how offended you are by having segregated roads and not being allowed near Mecca.Or how offended you are by sheer amount of stupid sharia silly laws.How about the one where touching a muslim sours him and prevents him from going to heaven? If there was ever a religon that insults everyone and makes them feel degraded it is Islam.They should all go back to the craphole that is Arabia and rot in the destitute desert with its corruption.

That is why they are all here right?



Define Virgins though? It may be Thatcher,The Queen or Dame Edna.I really hope it is 72 virgin goats that endlessly go baaa baaa baaa and turn it into hell.
I agree, why did they ring the newspaper? Just for the compo probably. Don't like it, live in a muslim country :)
 
Normal British people don't kick up a fuss over a poxy 19p pasty

Is this "normal" people with the confines of what you class "normal"? Because I find you quite abnormal, so your "normal" probably is not the same as everybody else's "normal". I've see people kick up a fuss much for much less, in fact only last week someone kicked up a fuss "cos somebody looked at them funny". Given you are a dailymail reader I'm surprised you hold this opinion since on a pretty much weekly basis their is some non story hovering about.

It's get even funnier when you consider brits have a reputation of being known as "moaners and complainers" world wide :o Perhaps he's more British than you give him credit for.

so personally I reckon he's quite happy not to be regarded as British, this is just another country it seems.

And you are assuming this about the man based off what? have you spoken to him, has he stated this? or are simply applying in a way a stereotype based off what you have heard others say? Another country to where? for all you know he was born and bred here and has never been to another... And its funny you can assume someone doesn't class them self as British based on the fact they complained about receiving a meat product when ordering a vegetarian one. perhaps you should share these powers with the rest of us. Perhaps not and it was simply a poor attempt of you trying to disguise your "us and them" attitude?


Normal British people weren't actually all that bothered when they found out they had been eating horse instead of beef for years, in fact the sales of horse meat have subsequently gone up.

No it was only in the news for weeks on end and every major super market clearing shelves and if I remember correctly weren't there halal products too that suffered from the same issues, didn't really see people kick up a fuss. Are these the same normal people that spend hours on here complaining about potentially eating halal meat and envision dooms day scenarios where they only have the option to eat halal meat :o Seems pretty normal to me.

Expecting normal people to respect his pointless religious choices is something that only Muslims appear to insist on and demand respect for. Sorry, life doesn't work that way, the world does not revolve around the religion of permanent offence, you'll have to wait maybe 20 years before you are the majority then you can do what you want. Hopefully I'll be dead.

Is ordering a vegetarian pasty, receiving a meat one and complaining forcing people to respect his choice of religion? This fiction does not exist apart from within the realms of your mind.

He used it as an excuse to be offended and to be offended on the behalf of other muslims. He's a self entitled clown. It seems muslims really have no conception of just how ridiculous and childish their behaviour appears to Westerners.

He did? I thought he phoned up and complained himself about receiving a product that he did not order. The only thing about this story that you could complain about is him going to the papers, but given that's a pretty British/western thing to do in the first place :o
 
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I think Castiel proposed that a random journalist picked up the story and the DM has just rerun it.


Actually this halal thing is a brilliant concept compared to what Christianity does. Make your followers do some odd food thing like only eat sky pixie bread, as it's a religion that spreads by conquering then each new country will have to start making sky pixie bread to cater for the influx. In terms of economics it makes sense just to cater for one market so now everyone just makes sky pixie bread.
Without having to lift a finger, this one idea subverts an entire market into a muslim way of thinking. It's genius :)
 
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