**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Davey_Pitch said:
I think that's a really interesting read, and certainly raises a few questions about just how big the power difference between the two consoles will be, IF the engineers are correct about how the performance will work out.

MS have done themselves no favours though. Their horrid PR so far regarding the Xbox One means that it's so hard for a lot of people to believe them when they come out with interviews like this. People just see it as damage limitation (as above), or just plain lying about it.

My personal concern is that if they have to explain in so much detail how the power is in the console, and how it works, does that mean it's not straightforward to use either? We all know from experience that some consoles have been harder to get the most out of, and they tend to be the ones that suffer slightly in cross-platform games (like the 360 being ever-so-slightly ahead of the PS3 usually). Even if MS are completely correct in that interview, and the power difference is nowhere near as big as it seems on paper, if the power of the console is difficult to use properly, that power difference will become more noticeable again.

I guess the proof will be in the pudding. Only 2 months to go now, can't wait! :)
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Perhaps youll see this as bias, but Id be quite concerned if I was a XO customer right now, especially with their constant mix-messaging the latest of which, is going from when specs didnt matter outside of the number of transistors til today where we see pretty much every week another tech analysis coming out of MS; the majority of which are getting torn apart or just lead to more questions how they get to the numbers they are stating...

MS need to do a Nintendo in my books and talk about the non-tangible benefits unique to the platform. Ive got to the point that I just feel sorry for MS now. I dont trust a single word they say after the XO launch...

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Of course you see it like that, I expect nothing more from you.

I mean even your signature is geared towards having a dig at MS.

I have a mental picture of you sitting there at your desk looking like an evil Bond villain stroking your pussy, laughing manically at every statement/bit of info MS put out.

Regardless of what all this nonsense is about all over the internet, the games they have shown look fantastic, I don't care what the specs are at the end of the day.

It seems as if everyone loves to have a little twist of the knife with MS at every opportunity, and since the reveal in June it's become tiresome to read.
 
Well that was an interesting, albeit embarrassing reaction to my point :o. Keep your head in the sand and hope for the best, some of us spend a bit of time trying to understand and get a better idea of the possibilities. I just dont see any problem in being informed...

Considering whats happened and the reaction across the net, I think my perceived 'trolling' has been more than considerate...

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ps3ud0 said:
Well that was an interesting, albeit embarrassing reaction to my point :o. Keep your head in the sand and hope for the best, some of us spend a bit of time trying to understand and get a better idea of the possibilities...

Considering whats happened and the reaction across the net, I think my perceived 'trolling' has been more than considerate...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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To be fair, you do see the negative in a lot of what MS do, and you do have a sig having a go at them. I'm not saying you're an anti-MS fanboy, but you don't say a whole lot positive about it.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
To be fair, you do see the negative in a lot of what MS do, and you do have a sig having a go at them. I'm not saying you're an anti-MS fanboy, but you don't say a whole lot positive about it.
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Well, its hard to see a lot of posiitives in everything theyve done when its either revolved around changing the dynamic between customer-publisher-retailier relationship; PR spinning money-saving engineering decisions as positive balancing requirements; or just duping customers by means of bait and switch.

Ive seen positives and noted them where I see them - realise that when it comes to the PS4 I havent gone out of my way to post anti-XO links or pro-PS4 links and read what Ive needed to and only made comment when someone raises a point, I dont need an agenda to qualify my own decisions nor have I supplanted them...

I really dont care for this mentality that if you arent pro-XO you have to be pro-PS4; its quite sad people here cant take points at face value, especially when its these people that have done such off-the-cuff remarks in the past and therefore dont have the right to be offended. Ive been on these forums and this sub-forum for a number of years and the way I interact hasnt changed, so why would my motives to post appear so eminently shallow?

Its quite despressing to see people challenge your opinion based on the last few months, when in reality my character is well known and its indifference and bluntness has always been apparent.
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He's a 'considerate' troll, which he seems to be happy about, weird...
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Put that handbag down - I see you got on the bandwagon at a moments notice

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My head isn't in the sand, I know full well the first console I will buy is not the most powerful, but it doesn't concern me as it is still a massive leap over what we currently have.

I not once called you a troll.
 
ps3ud0 said:
Well, its hard to see a lot of posiitives in everything theyve done when its either revolved around changing the dynamic between customer-publisher-retailier relationship; PR spinning money-saving engineering decisions as positive balancing requirements; or just duping customers by means of bait and switch.
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Really? I've seen numerous positives, but it's really a tired argument that I'm sick of going over.

Its quite despressing to see people challenge your opinion based on the last few months
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Welcome to my world.
 
anticonscience said:
My head isn't in the sand, I know full well the first console I will buy is not the most powerful, but it doesn't concern me as it is still a massive leap over what we currently have.

I not once called you a troll.
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I never thought you have or hadnt tbf, it was a general point, just tired of treading on eggshells because of the perceived defensiveness of some people because some entity has made some product that may/may not live up to its potential.

Its absolutely insane when you look at it in the cold light of day...
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Welcome to my world.
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I think you know better than most thats a world Im well aware of

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
I never thought you have or hadnt tbf, it was a general point, just tired of treading on eggshells because of the perceived defensiveness of some people because some entity has made some product that may/may not live up to its potential.

Its absolutely insane when you look at it in the cold light of day...
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You could say exactly the same about the people (not you btw) who seem to spend their entire time attacking a product they have zero interest in buying. If they're not interested in it, why not just shut the hell up and go elsewhere? Baffling.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
You could say exactly the same about the people (not you btw) who seem to spend their entire time attacking a product they have zero interest in buying. If they're not interested in it, why not just shut the hell up and go elsewhere? Baffling.
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For me its purely a technical ideal, I like to understand how things work and if that forces comparison then its hard not to draw and comment on that. If you can back up that opinion then that adds something to the conversation and its irrelevant/secondary if its positive/negative.

I need to state though that I disagree that having investment in a product means you are allowed to pass comment/opinion on that particular product. Me being in this thread is testament to that and Im not going to be scared away because my opinion differs or just isnt wanted - thats for others to deal with.

I think some people have to think long and hard about how their personal investment affects how they treat others here (I include myself in this), because right now this community just doesnt feel like one...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
I need to state though that I disagree that having investment in a product means you are allowed to pass comment/opinion on that particular product. Me being in this thread is testament to that and Im not going to be scared away because my opinion differs or just isnt wanted - thats for others to deal with.
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I didn't say or suggest that in the slightest. I encourage sensible discussion with anyone who wants it. However, if someone only wants to bash a product mindlessly (which is all some people want to do), then I will very much encourage them to go elsewhere. Mindless discussion does nothing for anyone.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
I didn't say or suggest that in the slightest. I encourage sensible discussion with anyone who wants it. However, if someone only wants to bash a product mindlessly (which is all some people want to do), then I will very much encourage them to go elsewhere. Mindless discussion does nothing for anyone.
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Perhaps I took the extreme of your argument, anyway if people have an issue with me or my posting/bashing (not saying you are saying that Davey_Pitch :p), they know where the report button is and I welcome them to use it...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
The Xbox One will sell by the millions, the PS4 will too. It's fanboyism, the same as Apple vs Android.

I hope to own both consoles at some point and the only reason I buy a console - both or just one - is for the exclusive games. The tech specs mean nothing to me, they are what they are. It's all about which developer can squeeze all the power from a console and make an awesome exclusive title. As for multiplats, it depends on the game type but if PC is an option then I'd most likely go for that. A good example is Titanfall which is Xbox and PC only.

I think of myself as an avid gamer so I'm not bias, I hope to own both platforms.
 
neoglow said:
The Xbox One will sell by the millions, the PS4 will too. It's fanboyism, the same as Apple vs Android.

I hope to own both consoles at some point and the only reason I buy a console - both or just one - is for the exclusive games. The tech specs mean nothing to me, they are what they are. It's all about which developer can squeeze all the power from a console and make an awesome exclusive title. As for multiplats, it depends on the game type but if PC is an option then I'd most likely go for that. A good example is Titanfall which is Xbox and PC only.

I think of myself as an avid gamer so I'm not bias, I hope to own both platforms.
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I hear Titanfall will eventually come to PS4.
 
anticonscience said:
I have a mental picture of you sitting there at your desk looking like an evil Bond villain stroking your pussy, laughing manically at every ...
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Err ;)

As far as i'm concerned, the PS4 is probably about 20% more powerful, but even if it was ten times more powerful, I wouldn't buy it. It's abit like an old race car. Big power, but with a car crash game line up.

But whatever, take to the PS4 thread to discuss it. Bring on the slightly smaller 'XP-700-look-alike' for my desk.
 
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